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● Barterers have announced a new list of land items they will barter for. Certain items they used to barter will no longer be accepted.
Jun 22, 2022, 14:00 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jun 22, 2022, 15:06 (UTC)
# 1

well thanks a lot i have to see what my worker do not need to get now and if i can change them to something they can get ooooo i see you have a lot of stuff now that worker can not get that will have to bew made so instead of bartering you need to spend time making stuff to barter with so great job again taking time away from doing bartering.

So many thing i have to remove from my bank that will not be used any more and now will have a lot of workers no working till i find something they can do so another great job just so you can make it even harder for people

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Amiee
Last Edit : Jun 22, 2022, 15:43 (UTC)
# 2

This is epic s. update. I understand adding new land items but removing? Ok, removing fruit is good, but all the rest? And what am I supposed to do now with hundreds of thousands of pistachios or cactus juice? Such changes additionally destroy the entire production line from the nodes.

Also, the whole exchange land itmes for barter items should look different. Barter items lvl 1 should have a choice of several (3-5) land items for which they can be exchanged. Why? Because not all land items are equally easy to obtain or have a low price. It often happens that such an exchange is unprofitable. Eg. exchange for pistachios is great but exchange for sinner blood not.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 00:46 (UTC)
# 3

Soooooooooooo, was the bartering system broken or unfair, before they "updated" it?  Or is this yet another example of them trying to "fix" something that was going just fine?  Did anyone ask for a dramatic change?  Or were they bored with it, and thought we were too?  Chaos like this never helps, and it only frustrates and infuriates players.  DEVs, please, before you tinker with things that seem to be running smoothly, PLEASE poll the players and check with us!  Don't make a game we love to play a game we love to hate!  OR, could you at least explain why you made the change?  I'm REALLY trying to come up with reasons to think that you're out to make a game that players will want to play.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 02:10 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jun 23, 2022, 00:46 (UTC), Written by Musa4ever

Soooooooooooo, was the bartering system broken or unfair, before they "updated" it?  Or is this yet another example of them trying to "fix" something that was going just fine?  Did anyone ask for a dramatic change?  Or were they bored with it, and thought we were too?  Chaos like this never helps, and it only frustrates and infuriates players.  DEVs, please, before you tinker with things that seem to be running smoothly, PLEASE poll the players and check with us!  Don't make a game we love to play a game we love to hate!  OR, could you at least explain why you made the change?  I'm REALLY trying to come up with reasons to think that you're out to make a game that players will want to play.

nope, its just refreshing the items required. they took out some of the more expensive trades, and added trades that were much cheaper, as well as reduced amount of items needed for some trades.



Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 07:41 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jun 23, 2022, 00:46 (UTC), Written by Musa4ever

Soooooooooooo, was the bartering system broken or unfair, before they "updated" it?  Or is this yet another example of them trying to "fix" something that was going just fine?  Did anyone ask for a dramatic change?  Or were they bored with it, and thought we were too?  Chaos like this never helps, and it only frustrates and infuriates players.  DEVs, please, before you tinker with things that seem to be running smoothly, PLEASE poll the players and check with us!  Don't make a game we love to play a game we love to hate!  OR, could you at least explain why you made the change?  I'm REALLY trying to come up with reasons to think that you're out to make a game that players will want to play.

It was bad and nothing has changed for better. From the very beginning, what I wrote about above was incorrectly scaled.

Also other changes in game had an indirect effect on barter as well eg. lightstones. Players forced lvl up alchemy and many land items for barter price skyrocket. 

Players (and PA) do not understand that barter gives a ridiculously low money and that it is not free. The cost is the land items. When I can get them "for free" from nodes, it makes sense. But if these are items from gathering or processing, such an exchange is not worthwhile. There is also the second problem I mentioned above: too expensive land items block the exchange for barter lvl 1. All exchanges are rng, if you are unlucky, it comes to a situation that you are running out of some barter lvl 1, so you cannot exchange them for barter lvl 2, etc., and finally for money. I always try to have all of them in stock, but unfortunately it is not always possible because of some expensive land itmes.

Conclusion: the facts are that PA remove very expensive land items from bartering but it also removed a lot of the cheapest ones that have no use anyway and nobody wants them.

Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 15:46 (UTC)
# 6

Really do not like it that you took things that you could get from nodes and replace them with things that need to be process that will take time from Bartering or just cost more to get so the update was not a win it was a lose and should be redone

127 435
Lv 63
Amiee
Last Edit : Jun 23, 2022, 16:21 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jun 23, 2022, 15:46 (UTC), Written by Amiee

Really do not like it that you took things that you could get from nodes and replace them with things that need to be process that will take time from Bartering or just cost more to get so the update was not a win it was a lose and should be redone

Apparently the devs think people like processing grains, butchering lions, chopping wood, and other things, only to make less money vs time spent.

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