the market for alc right now is terrbile not just the simple mats but the ones hard to come by now
most recent I sure most of you have seen frenzy draught has been super costly and its not cuz of no one grinding underwater its because traces/fruits for elixir it self has been suffering. its getting to the point bares weps have been sold out cuz trace of battle is hard to come by now more so fruits need a buff just cuz of the share amount u need on a daily base does not support the matss needed 

if you watch the market right now beast, giants, frenzy and anything that has to do with alc has gone up in price and supply and demand is skyrocket 
also including spirit perfume elixir users

its come to the point if u use one fruit for one thing then u need to use it for another so the gathering aspect goes out the window right now for everything.
something is terribly wrong here. Alchemy is soo bad right now.

speak up guys time to get Alchemy better!!

FYI i am a 645 energy player i know how much fruit i need and stuff to makee wat i need and its just not there

go get it yourself then? :D

They did make some improvements to how many special fruit you got when gathering a few months ago, but it's still very much the case that it's not possible to acquire the number of fruits and traces you need to seriously do alchemy without buying most of them from the CM. With cooking, it's possible to use a combination of nodes and gathering to get everything you need to consistently cook high level recipes, but it's simply not possible to do that with alchemy, which is incredibly frustrating. Personally, I'd like them to fix it so that it's actually possible to acquire large quantities of special fruits and traces on your own, but I really don't expect PA to fix that at this point. In spite of the fact that BDO is a fantasy game, PA consistently favors cooking over alchemy.

Good luck getting 62k+ traces to do a few batches . They stated they get it them sealves if you looked at how much energy they have. I have 653 energy,you can count how many chars i have, i have the same issue.No i dont use all chars because i move the energy utilizing alustin. PA have tried eleviating the issue but the player base is now focused in on the alch stone upgrade which is now making the demand for frenzys and spirits increase dramatically

 also truffles need a buff so we can actually get a decent amount of them without only getting like 62 a hour 

Bascailly this. It so easy to asmass millions of matz for cooking, but for alch it a nightmare just trying to get enough to make 100 items, it than also doesn't help that unlike foods which last 30-120 mins an don't wear off when you die pots only last 5-15 mins an the effects are lost apon death.

i dont think u under how much fruit u need and trace u need to support ur self and if u look to sell lower tier items like oils u start to see a chain reaction i bet u will be one of the same ppl asking ur self why frenzy draught is soo costly right now and soon beast will be 1m each so good luck saying that to ppl
yet again fruits are a pain in the as** to get even at 650 energy 
cant wait to see ppl like u start crying about not having the items to grind
u better start having better knowledge how alc and items u use to grind or life will with work

we need to start up voting on this and get pa attenion but yet again maybe get their attention on the market right now cuz its startomg to showing its ugly face and more so in the next two weeks with the cm changes coming in

This would not be an issue if we still had high-quality wine to refresh the energy bar. Unfortunately, it was removed because of greed, they want you to refresh your energy in the pearl store.

that's an excuse to how bad fruits are let alone how traces are

I do my poits myself, have zero problems with fruits and anything like this, spend like ~1h gathering per week and  another one for crafting it.  workers bring enough  traces.

There is no problems beside  you don't know what inflation means, why would i spend hours doing low paid labor if i can "1bil/h spot" and buy what i need with those money, oh wait...................