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#Tinfoil - Hardstuck due to Matchmaking in AoS (2/10 Wins, 7/8 Aces)
Jun 28, 2022, 18:33 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 16:28 (UTC)
# 11
On: Jun 28, 2022, 18:33 (UTC), Written by Zoroaster

Blurred names cus the only Slog that should get shamed here is BDO's Arena of Solare Matchmaking system. Newbies gotta learn, I know, but don't dump them on unassuming players to constantly push them towards a 50-50 win rate. It all started as I was a game next to gold [as it always is with systems like these].

Damage numbers rarely reflect what really happened in the match. In low ELOs you obviously don't have full communication and you will have two sides of 3 people running at each other, barely able to understand what's going on and getting CC'd almost instantly. Clearly, you keep letting your teammates die and complain about them instead of doing something to help them and do exactly that to the other team. Ironically enough, I carried the other commenter here, Minarya, like 2 days ago in 1500s and we had a similarly inting Sorc that wasn't in the voice chat. But because he survived alone in the first round and stalled for 2 minutes spamming random damage, he barely got the MVP in the end. Obviously it's not always like that, but in this particular case the only thing "MVP" about it was how he fed our enemies rage for 2nd round.

On: Jun 29, 2022, 13:10 (UTC), Written by Minarya

3. If you think winning in AoS is 95% RNG based, you need to get better at the game

At the end of the day it comes down to this. If you are hardstuck in 1000 ELO, you just need to get better at the game. You aren't good at teamplay, you are good at playing an iframe class that can use Cartian on 3 enemies while they combo and kill your teammates. Wow, someone had only 9.5k damage? 


 So according to your logic, this Ninja should be banned and not in this rank? These two Sorcs were AoA finalists too, both of them literally legendary on EU, and it didn't help them. They were just outplayed THAT hard. Sniffed the Ninja in stealth 3 times as soon as the round started. It wasn't his fault, even if his numbers look bad because of it. 

Without premade, you should reach 50% win rate around your skill level. Not sure why you think game "pushes" you to 50% win rate, I never felt pushed toward 50%. Check the rankings. Top players from top guilds get 65-85% win rates. There are many people in TOP100 that are stuck, and you can see how they have 200-300 matches and 52-55% win rate. 

You have 44.67% win rate in <1000 ELO. There's no other way to say this, but anyone ranked where you think you should be could easily solo carry this bracket. You don't. 

Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 16:46 (UTC)
# 12
On: Jun 29, 2022, 13:10 (UTC), Written by Minarya

3. If you think winning in AoS is 95% RNG based, you need to get better at the game

I did some fact-checking on this, but the fact that in the last hour I only got troll teams proves that you are wrong.

Or care to point where can I prevent shit tier classes from getting placed into my team? Probably I miss something, where it is? In the pearl shop? Do i need to do some quests for that? what? Or is it rng after all?

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Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 16:59 (UTC)
# 13
On: Jun 29, 2022, 04:59 (UTC), Written by HockeyJin

The map with the floating orbs 

This map should be removed because PA still hasn't fixed the archer bug that he doesn't deal damage when shooting "uphill".

So how to fight?

Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 17:45 (UTC)
# 14
On: Jun 29, 2022, 16:46 (UTC), Written by CatDK

I did some fact-checking on this, but the fact that in the last hour I only got troll teams proves that you are wrong.

Or care to point where can I prevent shit tier classes from getting placed into my team? Probably I miss something, where it is? In the pearl shop? Do i need to do some quests for that? what? Or is it rng after all?

It's after the comma. you need to get better at the game. 

Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 18:28 (UTC)
# 15
On: Jun 29, 2022, 17:45 (UTC), Written by Alayavijnana

It's after the comma. you need to get better at the game. 

So if I get better at game I going to have atleast one grab class in my team. Interesting theory for sure!

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Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 20:25 (UTC)
# 16
On: Jun 29, 2022, 18:28 (UTC), Written by CatDK

So if I get better at game I going to have atleast one grab class in my team. Interesting theory for sure!

If you get better at the game, you won't need a grab class to win against clueless 1100 players that don't know what SA is. You don't need a grab to CC them. 

Trust me, I could go on and on and on about how easy to it is to win in AoS without 3 meta grab classes in low ELO. 

Tamer isn't exactly known for being amazing in AoS but I guess this one grab completely changed the dynamic? And at the top you have another 2 grab-less matchups against Succ Zerker, Succ Nova, Warrior, Ninja, Hashashin... 

There's a reason why I can take these out of my hat and you can't. Notice how my earlier examples aren't even from that winstreak against grab classes with no grabs or a Tamer. 

Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 20:41 (UTC)
# 17
On: Jun 29, 2022, 20:21 (UTC), Written by Alayavijnana

If you get better at the game, you won't need a grab class to win against clueless 1100 players that don't know what SA is. You don't need a grab to CC them. 

Trust me, I could go on and on and on about how easy to it is to win in AoS without 3 meta grab classes in low ELO. 

Tamer isn't exactly known for being amazing in AoS but I guess this one grab completely changed the dynamic? And at the top you have another 2 grab-less matchups against Succ Zerker, Succ Nova, Warrior, Ninja, Hashashin... 

There's a reason why I can take these out of my hat and you can't. Notice how my earlier examples aren't even from that winstreak against grab classes with no grabs or a Tamer. 

There is something very pleasing in seeing a literal FOTM class player trying to arguage by the fact that he can twotap noobs at starting elo :D

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Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 20:52 (UTC)
# 18
On: Jun 29, 2022, 20:41 (UTC), Written by CatDK

There is something very pleasing in seeing a literal FOTM class player trying to arguage by the fact that he can twotap noobs at starting elo :D

Yes, I'm so FOTM against Succ Zerkerks, Sorcs, DKs, Ninjas, Warriors, Drakanias, Valks and Novas in AoS. 

God I'm so FOTM, how did I not think of it until now!

And yes, that starting ELO being 1200-1500 that you can't get out of, hard-carrying half the matches where my team is off-meta. Sorry I breezed through the ranks so hard I can't show you more examples, one of the more recent examples was from 1500+, nice red emblem and all. Still clueless people there. 

Last Edit : Jun 29, 2022, 21:38 (UTC)
# 19

low elo is definitely just a coin flip, but when u get into higher elo it's team comp flip so still very rng dependent. 

also musa might be meta but dk is very strong too as strong as musa even, just musa is more rounded and works in any comp

Last Edit : Jun 30, 2022, 07:10 (UTC)
# 20
On: Jun 29, 2022, 16:26 (UTC), Written by Alayavijnana

 Ironically enough, I carried the other commenter here, Minarya, like 2 days ago in 1500s and we had a similarly inting Sorc that wasn't in the voice chat.

Actually calling me out. Now I'm crying ;_;

Guess you gotta carry me once again to make up for it

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