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Delete these pointless dialogs
Jul 4, 2022, 13:51 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 4, 2022, 13:51 (UTC)
# 1

Everyone can read what those gives in the item's tooltip, these dialogs are 100% pointless, annoing, and only forces the players to not care about those popups and just spam enter without reading as they are annoing, waste of time.

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Last Edit : Jul 5, 2022, 02:45 (UTC)
# 2

While I agree with removing the dialogues, for the RNG Lootboxes especially, they may be a requirement in some juristicitons BDO is available in to follow certain laws and regulations that pertain to RNG Loot Boxes and other randomized items where Real World Money can be spent on them. It's part of the reason Enhancement Chances in BDO were spelled out as an exact % insead of just "More Likely" and "Less Likely" as it was in previous versions of the game. Loot Crates were particularily singled out as "Gambling Items" in certain bills brought to various legislatures arround the world in 2013, 2014, and 2018 in particular, and even in the past few years there have been debates about regulating the purchase of Randomized Items. China and South Korea (South Korea being where Pearl Abyss is based) have some of the strictest regulations and laws regarding this, and so does Belgium and the Netherlands, and certain Provinces of Canada, and some States in the United States are also debating adding regulations to this part of the industry as well. 

TL;DR: These Dialogues may be a legal requirement to act as the "Tap on the Shoulder" for Gambling Addicts where "Loot Crate Laws" and Gabling Laws in some regions exist. Because of how broad these laws can be, many developers play it safe with plain language dialogue boxes to tell you what you're getting into. 

Last Edit : Jul 5, 2022, 07:44 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jul 5, 2022, 02:45 (UTC), Written by DutchLestral

While I agree with removing the dialogues, for the RNG Lootboxes especially, they may be a requirement in some juristicitons BDO is available in to follow certain laws and regulations that pertain to RNG Loot Boxes and other randomized items where Real World Money can be spent on them. It's part of the reason Enhancement Chances in BDO were spelled out as an exact % insead of just "More Likely" and "Less Likely" as it was in previous versions of the game. Loot Crates were particularily singled out as "Gambling Items" in certain bills brought to various legislatures arround the world in 2013, 2014, and 2018 in particular, and even in the past few years there have been debates about regulating the purchase of Randomized Items. China and South Korea (South Korea being where Pearl Abyss is based) have some of the strictest regulations and laws regarding this, and so does Belgium and the Netherlands, and certain Provinces of Canada, and some States in the United States are also debating adding regulations to this part of the industry as well. 

TL;DR: These Dialogues may be a legal requirement to act as the "Tap on the Shoulder" for Gambling Addicts where "Loot Crate Laws" and Gabling Laws in some regions exist. Because of how broad these laws can be, many developers play it safe with plain language dialogue boxes to tell you what you're getting into. 

There are no such regulations, and even countries who try to regulate it, only apply regulations for IRL cash items.

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Last Edit : Jul 5, 2022, 12:54 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jul 5, 2022, 07:44 (UTC), Written by CatDK

There are no such regulations, and even countries who try to regulate it, only apply regulations for IRL cash items.

Yep, this. The regulations only state that it must be listed at the time of purchase, not after. They are only for cash items and you can bypass all cash items by doing the double-token thing. That's why There are A-Coins and Pearls because you buy A-Coins for Pearls which have no RNG assigned to it. You get exactly what you expect. Afterwards, the Pearl isn't treated as cash, which is why there is no refund because it's not the same as actual cash and refunding would mean it is treated as cash. Some games go a step further by introducing 3-level currencies.

I agree that south korea has chinese-level nanny laws but PA has no need to follow any % regulation on their RNG since it's all within the game. Pearl items are not cash shop items legally speaking. The dialogs can disappear and it would still be 100% legal.

Last Edit : Jul 5, 2022, 13:06 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jul 5, 2022, 12:54 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost

Yep, this. The regulations only state that it must be listed at the time of purchase, not after. They are only for cash items and you can bypass all cash items by doing the double-token thing. That's why There are A-Coins and Pearls because you buy A-Coins for Pearls which have no RNG assigned to it. You get exactly what you expect. Afterwards, the Pearl isn't treated as cash, which is why there is no refund because it's not the same as actual cash and refunding would mean it is treated as cash. Some games go a step further by introducing 3-level currencies.

I agree that south korea has chinese-level nanny laws but PA has no need to follow any % regulation on their RNG since it's all within the game. Pearl items are not cash shop items legally speaking. The dialogs can disappear and it would still be 100% legal.

Netherlands and Belgium disagree with you.

If it was as easy as using several levels of currencies to avoid regulations, casinos could be free of any regulation really quickly. That's not the case, hopefully. 

Gaming companies are using some so-called loopholes but the real problem is that many countries already have good regulations but they did not decide to take care of these situations. Yet. Just wait until they really decide to apply the same regulations on video-games with integrated gambles than they do for casinos (and online casinos). 

Last Edit : Jul 6, 2022, 13:59 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jul 5, 2022, 13:06 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Netherlands and Belgium disagree with you.

If it was as easy as using several levels of currencies to avoid regulations, casinos could be free of any regulation really quickly. That's not the case, hopefully. 

Gaming companies are using some so-called loopholes but the real problem is that many countries already have good regulations but they did not decide to take care of these situations. Yet. Just wait until they really decide to apply the same regulations on video-games with integrated gambles than they do for casinos (and online casinos). 

EDIT: I learned that there are new laws that were implemented recently, you may see my later response if you prefer. I didn't delete what I said just correcting myself with this edit.

You're wrong on this. It's as simple as adding currency in game unless said countries completely outlaw RNG in videogames, but if you do that then you would not have any game to play. There's no such thing as good regulations when it comes to games, no regulations should exist for gaming, period. It should be open, free from regulations. People have choices when it comes to playing games and they are free to make the choice to not play a casino game if they desire. You cannot get a credit card before you become an adult and as a result you cannot go in debt playing any game unless you steal money from someone. That is already a crime and irrelevant to games. Any regulation on gaming is a violation of art and free expression. It'd deplorable that there can be regulations for games.

You cannot gamble A-Coins, you can only buy pearls with them. A-coins are purchased on a website separate from the game through a separate service which is another loophole for certain legal situations (ie: in Japan gambling is illegal but it still exists if you sell your tokens to the business next door).

Last Edit : Jul 5, 2022, 16:09 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jul 5, 2022, 15:08 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost

You're wrong on this. It's as simple as adding currency in game unless said countries completely outlaw RNG in videogames, but if you do that then you would not have any game to play. There's no such thing as good regulations when it comes to games, no regulations should exist for gaming, period. It should be open, free from regulations. People have choices when it comes to playing games and they are free to make the choice to not play a casino game if they desire. You cannot get a credit card before you become an adult and as a result you cannot go in debt playing any game unless you steal money from someone. That is already a crime and irrelevant to games. Any regulation on gaming is a violation of art and free expression. It'd deplorable that there can be regulations for games.

You cannot gamble A-Coins, you can only buy pearls with them. A-coins are purchased on a website separate from the game through a separate service which is another loophole for certain legal situations (ie: in Japan gambling is illegal but it still exists if you sell your tokens to the business next door).

You can't say I'm wrong when 2 countries already proved my point, you know. 

Now, I nearly agree on you on one point. Videogames SHOULDN'T need regulations, it should stay an entertainment and even if RNG exists, it should never be linked with any real money, directly or not. It should stay a kind of art, a free expression, as you said.

BUT... As we can notice it, we are far from such a pure intention in the gaming industry. Gambling addiction exists, that's why regulations exist in real casinos, and it makes no sense to severely control these casinos to then let video-games use the exact same mechanics without restrictions. Near-missed, success rates... In fact, video-games are even worse as they're not controlled. Yet. 

And PEGI 16, "Teen" ESRB rating... Wonderful way to give our teens their first adrenalin shots. Your claim about not having credit cards before adulthood is also quite bold, and wrong in some countries. And YES, parents have to be aware, responsible, but not every parent is a gamer aware of the current situation of the gaming industry, preying on our kids. That's also why official ratings exist. And these ratings should be reliable.

So yeah... Let BDO be free of any regulation... When it will stop using predatory and plainly materialistic marketing strategies. You can't play on both aspects at the same time.

Thanks Belgium and Netherland for showing the way. 

Last Edit : Jul 6, 2022, 13:28 (UTC)
# 8

You are right and I can believe it. Netherland and Belgium are both backwards countries and we see it especially in the modern times when they were forcing people against their will to take covid shots (or go to prison camp / lose house / lose all your assets / lose your kids etc...) as well as so many other facist things they've been doing like the fact that they shut down over 50% of the farmers right now in the name of global warming (LOL) so yes, I can believe they are like that with gambling but look at what's happening right now in Netherlands.... There's a revolt now or at least the start of one. The news doesn't cover it or even mention it but the populous is defending the farmers because it's not right and they know what's coming.

Politics aside, there's always a loophole somewhere and if someone's going to find out how to go around it, it's the multi-billion dollar studios like PA. I don't believe that a dialog that tells you what you might be getting is part of that loophole because when you hover over the item it already tells you anyway but maybe it does in those two countries it might make a difference. It sounds stupid, it is back-asswards and there is no logic to it but when has these Liberals ever made sense with their over-regulatory laws? (By definition Liberal = Liberal with tax dollars and lawmaking) Sorry for bringing in politics but it's a fact that we're in this mess because of them and it's because of them that games will continue to face bizarre regulations and censorship and I hope it stops sooner than later.

Pearl Abyss deserves all the creative freedom to make their games how they see fit, even if they have a predatory business model, that is their choice. We are all adults making adult decisions and for those who have gambling problems, that's on them, not the rest of us.  If they can't resolve the problem themselves then there are plenty of places that can help them but we all have the power for exceptional self-control. All games trigger an addrenaline rush, even chess. I may not agree with half of what PA decides to do with their game but I certainly will defend their right to do it.

Last Edit : Jul 6, 2022, 14:58 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jul 6ferfarmers naturistse common  13:28 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost

You are right and I can believe it. Netherland and Belgium are both backwards countries and we see it especially in the modern times when they were forcing people against their will to take covid shots (or go to prison camp / lose house / lose all your assets / lose your kids etc...) as well as so many other facist things they've been doing like the fact that they shut down over 50% of the farmers right now in the name of global warming (LOL) so yes, I can believe they are like that with gambling but look at what's happening right now in Netherlands.... There's a revolt now or at least the start of one. The news doesn't cover it or even mention it but the populous is defending the farmers because it's not right and they know what's coming.

Politics aside, there's always a loophole somewhere and if someone's going to find out how to go around it, it's the multi-billion dollar studios like PA. I don't believe that a dialog that tells you what you might be getting is part of that loophole because when you hover over the item it already tells you anyway but maybe it does in those two countries it might make a difference. It sounds stupid, it is back-asswards and there is no logic to it but when has these Liberals ever made sense with their over-regulatory laws? (By definition Liberal = Liberal with tax dollars and lawmaking) Sorry for bringing in politics but it's a fact that we're in this mess because of them and it's because of them that games will continue to face bizarre regulations and censorship and I hope it stops sooner than later.

Pearl Abyss deserves all the creative freedom to make their games how they see fit, even if they have a predatory business model, that is their choice. We are all adults making adult decisions and for those who have gambling problems, that's on them, not the rest of us.  If they can't resolve the problem themselves then there are plenty of places that can help them but we all have the power for exceptional self-control. All games trigger an addrenaline rush, even chess. I may not agree with half of what PA decides to do with their game but I certainly will defend their right to do it.

Casinos would love to have the same freedom. But they don't, because some addictions are not something you can treat only with positive thoughts.

In the gaming industry, as I mentioned, that's even worse because it is not controlled AND teenagers can play it. The same control should occur in a similar situation. 

So yes, give PA the creative freedom it deserves, but being creative on predatory strategies is not what I would call a good thing.

Side note : I let you deal with your own words about "backward countries" and your covid argumentations when many countries did the same. You also took many shortcuts when it comes to Netherlands farmers. But yeah, you're sorry about bringing politics...

As the topic is seriously going astray, I'll stop here. But no, being creative in predatory strategies is not "art", addictions are a real and serious issue and trying to prevent abuses is not in itself "limiting one's freedom". By abusing something, they already disturb the freedom of others. 

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