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So this time half the pearl shop update is unavailable in 2 whole countries... even what costs a sneeze, I mean 710 silver...
Jul 6, 2022, 12:18 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 8, 2022, 12:18 (UTC)
# 21
On: Jul 6, 2022, 21:51 (UTC), Written by Frozenfist

This isn't a case of "blame your government" this is a case of blame the developer because they know exactly what they are doing. They are pissy becasue they cant sell you their scam boxes for $50 each that have a 5% chance of you breaking even or getting better rewards, so they shit on you as much as humanly possible so you in turn put pressure on your governemnt to repeal the laws. This is 100% the devs being little scumbag children because a government dared to protect their citizens from predatory marketing.

The only protection people need from the government is from invaders and the government itself. People can avoid buying into their game or shady "deals" etc... People say that the citizens need to take a stand against business or the government when something happens that they don't agree with but for some reason it's wrong when PA takes a stand against draconian laws. You think it's OK because it's "just anti-gambling" but let me tell you right now that it will keep trickling down where more and more laws are made where your rights are taken away and eventually you will have no rights. Don't believe me? Look at what happened during COVID. The entire world tried to take away as many rights as possible from its citizens during this time and it worked for most countries.

What seems like not a big deal today is just a small part of their grand plan. That's why they don't take all guns away in one swoop in the US, instead they make tiny changes in the law one-by-one until one day you have no right to them. They can't just take away your right to free speech as well because they wouldn't be able to get away with it so that's why they created a fascade and brought in wokeness. Now it's illegal to say certain things in certain countries and it trickled down to "conspiracies" being censored. Anything you say that is against the status-quo gets removed from social network, search engines and youtube. That's how politics work and that's why it's wrong for the gov. to be doing this. It starts small now, ends up being part of a big problem later.

I'm not defending PA because I like what they are doing, I have a reputation for disagreeing with what they do like 50% of the time at least. But they have the right to do this just as much as you have the right to not do business with them. If that's their way of protesting, then that's them protesting. If you want to protest against PA then you do you too.

Last Edit : Jul 10, 2022, 11:53 (UTC)
# 22

I am living in one of these countries too so i understand well what u explain. Still can buy pearls, but i can't buy silver items ?

But imo we should be "glad" to still have access to the game. I'll take the example of Lost Ark, they just deceided the game would never come to BE or NL.

PA could have do the same, was maybe more difficult because the game was out before those laws. But i am still glad i can play the game even if i lose some deals in-game.

Last Edit : Jul 15, 2022, 13:48 (UTC)
# 23
On: Jul 6, 2022, 12:18 (UTC), Written by DiaborMagics

I know I keep complaining about this but it's so easily fixed!!!! Now half the (...) pearl update is unavailable in BE and NL. Last month even though I'd already spent enough pearls to be eligible for the spending rewards, I couldn't even get the 30% off coupon because it was bundled with an RNG box and instead of having the simple claim button as before, it cost 1 simbolic F-U loyalty because that disables it for purchase here. Taking the money and giving less in return. All they had to do was separate the 30% coupon from the RNG stuff.

Are they actively TRYING to shut us out?

As I've said so many times before, I don't need the pearl-costing boxes, I mean I'd buy them if available to me, but what frustrates is all the silver and loyalty costing things and even spending rewards we just can't get. They have NOTHING to do with the gambling law as you pay no real money for them. 1 loyalty. 710 silver. That is less than a sneeze in this game and yet we're excluded? Why? Just because it happens to be in the pearl shop? We have Jetina seals and all kinds of stuff like that. The solution is so darn simple - add these things to NPCs! 

This way you don't have to exclude 2 whole countries from almost every single (...) offer you make. "Can't thank you enough" is something PA has the most terrible of track records showing. Stop excluding 2 whole countries where the fix is so easy. Sheesh. Lazy, greedy, unbelievably tone-deaf.

and before everyone who doesnt live here starts flooding in with "blame your government", "use VPN", "it is what it is" - PA makes these bundles and could give them to NPCs like in so many events, not the government. Plus, we're talking actually free stuff here. The game itself is one giant lootbox you can buy, should the whole game just get a ban? If they list all the odds it is actually fine - and again for the loyalty and silver, there's no money involved. And the spending rewards thing? Separate the discount coupon from the unavailable RNG crap. I feel like I'm being punished simply for living here. Such easy fixes. But they don't give a flying f. "Thank you" my smelly behind.

VPN? Your profile has your country. Won't work. Any other bright ideas?
"It is what it is" - must be nice not having to deal with being discriminated against just because of the country you live in, for stuff that really shouldn't be banned.

"Van de tien onderzochte loot boxes zijn er vier in strijd met de wet. Dit komt omdat het toeval de inhoud van deze loot boxes bepaalt. Bovendien kunnen de prijzen verhandeld worden: de prijzen hebben economische waarde. Het is verboden om dit soort kansspelen zonder vergunning aan te bieden aan de Nederlandse spelers."

"... Furthermore, these prizes can be traded: the prizes have economical value"
source: https://kansspelautoriteit.nl/nieuws/2018/april/artikel-0/

You cannot trade these items to gain money in BDO. Trading in the first place is disabled. And does loyalty cost money? No. Does what you get from the box have economical value? No, so why can't we buy RNG boxes for loyalty? 

The truth of the matter is that there's easy solutions, even where none should be necessary, but none are offered and stuff doesn't get unblocked. 2 Countries get excluded from free stuff others do get, for the heck of it. It's just asynine.

So, I'm going to ask again, please, devs, 'KR Overlords', Pearl Abyss... can you please fix these things that are easy to fix and can you please stop excluding 2 countries from everything? Especially what costs silver or loyalty, because that just makes 0 sense at all. Add it to NPCs if you have to. Paying 710 silver in the pearl shop or to an NPC matters not, but in this strange context seems to make a world of difference.

Thank you. 

EDIT: funny how few people actually read. The things I predicted people would say they say, or they try to spin it into something I haven't said, which they'd known if they'd read it. People disliking the OP: it must be nice not having these issues, huh? Just keep on making fun, until this stuff affects yourself. Almost no one cares about equal treatment though it seems. 

ass a dutch person i can stand total behind it, how long did they got this now going ?

just make it a quest to pay a gold bar x amount and get a rng box maybe ?

send in a few tickets where i explained and gave a few options.

bedankt dat je het onder de aandacht brengt maar zo als ik all lees de zelfde reacties kreeg ik ook, zelfs een reactie waabij ik eigelijk niet moest klagen.

we need more players in this corner that wants fair game for all.

Last Edit : Jul 15, 2022, 14:19 (UTC)
# 24
On: Jul 6, 2022, 18:27 (UTC), Written by CatDK

Yeah sure :kappa

Imagine, surely politicans, instead of solving actuall isues like war, covid, ecomonic crysis, inflation... the list is long... they will coming here, and prohibit PA from banning countries from buying virtual items in their video game, yeah seems legit.

You shouldn't use :kappa when you're the one who don't understand the point. 

The practice I'm talking about is the hidden gambling, not the fact of preventing purchases in some countries. Obviously. 

Last Edit : Jul 15, 2022, 14:47 (UTC)
# 25

Spain also wants to ban lootboxes. Topic was already discussed on the EU forum when Belgium and the Netherlands gave a stop to lootboxes.

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