I'm pretty sure predatory was referring to the fact the game is targeted to kids. No one's brought up that point, so if you arnt a kid it's moot.

If you incentivise gambling mechanics we are going to get more gambling mechanics. That was the point I gained from the OP.

One simple rule : law or large numbers. Your own supposed (often exaggerated) misfortune doesn't speak for the mass of players who won't complain because they got what they wanted with positive or even average luck. And crons are even a thing in EU now, you just need to know what to order, 0 need to spend money if you don't want to.

Many people wouldn't even consider cronning anything less than blackstars or certain pen because the fs gain is valuable in the long run. And with Jetina it evens out the playing field, it becomes a matter of making silver to make steady gains.

Muuuhahaa, 700m trash from Kagtums. Even with agris and scroll you have 102m per hour. And only for 1 hour.

Stop repeating those nonsense fake rng stats from garmoth com. Only the trash per hour has always been counted because only trash it's repetitive. No one sells caphrases and black stones, if they do it's a fool. There is no other drop for sale with a meaningful value and, above all, repeatability. So once again: no one care fake shai exploit party drop.

300 only for pen acc, and next 600b for black starts and unlimited billions for fallen god parts.

After all, this is exactly what I wrote: You CANNOT get such money just by playing.

100m per day, then how much will it be? 15 years? 20?

Somehow for 99.99% of players it is not. 

We even have the best proof of this on this topic:

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=23494&_page=1

Also we dont wany "reapeat cirlcle", we want progress. Is't so hard for you to understand?

What's the point of a game in which in 10 seconds you can lose everything you have earned for several years. It's idiotic.

This is why Jetina was a step forward and then godr and two steps back.

They don't complain because they quit bdo long time ago.

Soo you complain, that you cant have the items that 0.01% of the players have? So tell me why is such drama to be like everyone else then???

Posting one person fails is not proof. Because people can show you one tapping, or people have PENs without single enchance. Then you claim is going to dust. But after all your posts are like that. Ninesence.

There are very very few people that make the mistake to enchance without backup. People do mistake. I did it too. But we learn. And dont do it again. And after that time everyone should know enchance chances. Idioc is only the person who knows the risk and after that complains.

Also 400-500 mln/h only from trash loot is something normal and easy with season gear.

But again you skip all the good you can get from posts just to complain. Proving whay you realy post on forums. Just to cry and complain without real reason. And instead discussing real problems we losing time with reading your lies and fantasy....

What are you going on about? I can make over 700m /hr, it's not that difficult. I never said progression is bad, I have always been promoting the idea that progression would be nice to have in this game. I also never said RNG is good either or that excessive grinding is fun, in fact I hate grinding, that's why I don't have billions in my account because I get tired after 20 minutes even if i'm just gathering meat.  100m per day is very low, you need to learn how to play the game correctly. Even a new adventurer will make about that much.

I don't know what you're getting about with these hundreds of billions to PEN things. Unless you are absolutely unlucky, that doesn't happen. 600bn silver for black star is hillarious! No, it's not that insane or anywhere near that amount unless you did something so messed up in your past life that you have virtually no luck in this one.

I'm defending PA's right to build the game how they see fit. It's their game and if they want to make it trashy RNG then they have the right to do it. It doesn't mean I or other players will like it. You're just trying to put words or rather paragraphs in my mouth.

At what point does this adult MMORPG is meant for kids? The oversized in-your-face breasts? The underwear shop? The non-stop killing of things? The realistic design of the game? People swearing in the game? The fact that you need a credit card to buy things that require you to be an adult to use unless you steal one? The ads are all boobs. Sure, any straight male teen would appreciate the appeal, we're only human but this game is advertised for adult men mostly because it's a free-to-play game that relies on people "donating" their credit card for the cause.

You call that proof? That person, despite playing waaay more years than I have(lol) can't figure a simple enhancing system and cries about it as much as you do. 

Dialogue with you is as pointless as playing BDO.

Reading a few simple sentences is beyond you to understand.

And this is why BDO looks what it looks like, the average BDO player is just a fool.

dont worry all gamers are fool it is why electronic art and ubisoft still exist and why fortnite and wow still sell well ^_^

Ah yes, argue with someone and when it doesn't go your way the best defense is to just say there's no point in arguing because you know you're wrong but your ego is too big to admit it. Even when I corrected you in another thread for posting the wrong information, I provided proof from the official website announcement, you felt compelled to insult me and make it all about you instead of admitting you were wrong. Sorry kid, but the world doesn't bend the knee to you. We may all have a difference in opinions and how the game should be more like but it doesn't mean any of us is right. That's the whole point of a forum, to exchange ideas. I feel kids have lost their ability to debate or are afraid of real debates these days. Sorry, it was presumptuous to assume you're a kid, but you sure act like one.