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Why you shouldn't give this game another cent.
Jul 19, 2022, 06:05 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 24, 2022, 14:11 (UTC)
# 81
On: Jul 24, 2022, 13:29 (UTC), Written by Minarya

Correct. Someone else has to do the RNG journey. The "you" in that case referred to the person buying the item. Clicking "buy" on the CM is kind of guaranteed. 

As we see, there is supply even for PEN Bs on the market. Ergo, there are people either quitting and selling, or making more of these items than they need. So where is the issue. If there are people willing to take the chance, let them? If people are whaling, why does it bother you? They fund the game for free updates for you, and give you the items in game that you need, without you spending a dime. 

But as I said, I do believe there are issues with the enhancing system and it's monetisation. I'm definitely not denying that. What I'm saying is that, as a player who is bothered by it, there are ways to avoid it. 

If we want to change the enhancement system, we definitely need better ideas then "give us free stuff for logging in" and "I should have endgame items because I want them" though. Feel free to suggest some ideas, or give examples from systems of other MMOs to create some discussion around that (in another post though ^^)

That's what I explain with less words. Just wait, you'll get a picture as an answer, that's what he does when he's cornered. 

Last Edit : Jul 24, 2022, 19:42 (UTC)
# 82

In addition, the Jetina system is not without benefits as well.

Caphras can be used on the PEN items and the armor and helm can be upgraded to Fallen God ( and sold ) so even if your on a different gear path, they all end up at Fallen God in the long run anyway.  It's really a nice shortcut for a lot of players.

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Last Edit : Jul 24, 2022, 20:50 (UTC)
# 83

The enhancement system is way too rng lost ark has the better model for enhancing gear. There is no reason to cap failstacks or require such an absorb number of attempts. So hey don't give them money but sadly I am fairly certain the op and people like minded real complaint is not the enhancing per say it's the even worse cancer the give me everything now millennial gamers syndrome. The real issue for the poster is the idea they deserve bid gear after playing for one day. The idea of needed to spend months to earn your bis playing the game for years is the problem they really have with bdo. They want to max out in a few weeks whine there is no content and move to the next game. So request denied it's what makes bdo great and wow meh the millennial give me everything now loot systems. They have ruined mmos with this entitled I shouldn't have to earn anything loot systems in games.

Last Edit : Jul 24, 2022, 21:05 (UTC)
# 84
On: Jul 24, 2022, 20:49 (UTC), Written by BDOmonster

The enhancement system is way too rng lost ark has the better model for enhancing gear. There is no reason to cap failstacks or require such an absorb number of attempts. So hey don't give them money but sadly I am fairly certain the op and people like minded real complaint is not the enhancing per say it's the even worse cancer the give me everything now millennial gamers syndrome. The real issue for the poster is the idea they deserve bid gear after playing for one day. The idea of needed to spend months to earn your bis playing the game for years is the problem they really have with bdo. They want to max out in a few weeks whine there is no content and move to the next game. So request denied it's what makes bdo great and wow meh the millennial give me everything now loot systems. They have ruined mmos with this entitled I shouldn't have to earn anything loot systems in games.

Well according to PA's financial reports players do give them less and less money.

On the other hand enchanting isn't the biggest issue with the game, and not even the second. You can buy pretty much everything, and they improved the gearing slightly over the years.

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Last Edit : Jul 24, 2022, 21:07 (UTC)
# 85
On: Jul 24, 2022, 19:35 (UTC), Written by Noobfury

In addition, the Jetina system is not without benefits as well.

Caphras can be used on the PEN items and the armor and helm can be upgraded to Fallen God ( and sold ) so even if your on a different gear path, they all end up at Fallen God in the long run anyway.  It's really a nice shortcut for a lot of players.

You missing few things:

1. Fallen God its a true end game item so most people won't sell it.

2. We only have two parts, it is not known when we will get the next two, it could take up to 2 years.

3. Production cost of Fallen God is high and the profit is small.

4. Getting Fallen God on your own is difficult. You need Flame and these are hidden behind two walls: very high ap, party Turos zone and even more ap / dp winter zones. And this is what we're talking about here: without ap, most players won't get Flame.

5. Pens from Jetina are only once per account.

6. Pens from Jetina are not free. Their total cost is almost the same as the price of pen in a market. But there is one very important difference: Jetina requires less money, the rest of the ingredients can be obtained just by playing. 

So once again: dp is not such a problem, problem is to increase ap.

Most of the players are pve players, i.e. they use black stars (in Europe). No option to get a pen = not possible to increase ap.

Second way to increase the ap is through accessories. And the same problem.

Both the prices of pen black stars and pen accessories are so out of touch with reality that their purchase is impossible.

And I really don't care that some of you don't have life. Others have and are not going to grind for 10 years.

Last Edit : Jul 24, 2022, 21:15 (UTC)
# 86
On: Jul 24, 2022, 20:49 (UTC), Written by BDOmonster

The enhancement system is way too rng lost ark has the better model for enhancing gear. There is no reason to cap failstacks or require such an absorb number of attempts. So hey don't give them money but sadly I am fairly certain the op and people like minded real complaint is not the enhancing per say it's the even worse cancer the give me everything now millennial gamers syndrome. The real issue for the poster is the idea they deserve bid gear after playing for one day. The idea of needed to spend months to earn your bis playing the game for years is the problem they really have with bdo. They want to max out in a few weeks whine there is no content and move to the next game. So request denied it's what makes bdo great and wow meh the millennial give me everything now loot systems. They have ruined mmos with this entitled I shouldn't have to earn anything loot systems in games.

Nobody talks about few weeks, players just want progress, not regress and this is the degradation and disappearance of items.

I repeat: I can fail 100 times on pen, but I still have to have tet. If I fall on a tri or an item worth 10b disappears then such playing and such an enchantment system does not make sense.

Last Edit : Jul 25, 2022, 08:49 (UTC)
# 87

BDO is far away from Diablo Immortal. In any aspect it provides. They're not as greedy on their item shop. And the enhancement system is what it is. A lot of games provide such gambling content. Some love it, some hate it. If you don't have luck or don't even understand it, just grind and buy from market!

The player can find solutions for any problem he has in this game. If he just wants. Crying isn't a solution, just a dumb way of wasting time.

Last Edit : Jul 25, 2022, 13:45 (UTC)
# 88
On: Jul 24, 2022, 21:07 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

You missing few things:

1. Fallen God its a true end game item so most people won't sell it.

2. We only have two parts, it is not known when we will get the next two, it could take up to 2 years.

3. Production cost of Fallen God is high and the profit is small.

4. Getting Fallen God on your own is difficult. You need Flame and these are hidden behind two walls: very high ap, party Turos zone and even more ap / dp winter zones. And this is what we're talking about here: without ap, most players won't get Flame.

5. Pens from Jetina are only once per account.

6. Pens from Jetina are not free. Their total cost is almost the same as the price of pen in a market. But there is one very important difference: Jetina requires less money, the rest of the ingredients can be obtained just by playing. 

So once again: dp is not such a problem, problem is to increase ap.

Most of the players are pve players, i.e. they use black stars (in Europe). No option to get a pen = not possible to increase ap.

Second way to increase the ap is through accessories. And the same problem.

Both the prices of pen black stars and pen accessories are so out of touch with reality that their purchase is impossible.

And I really don't care that some of you don't have life. Others have and are not going to grind for 10 years.

Complete nonsense, all of it.

On: Jul 24, 2022, 21:14 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Nobody talks about few weeks, players just want progress, not regress and this is the degradation and disappearance of items.

I repeat: I can fail 100 times on pen, but I still have to have tet. If I fall on a tri or an item worth 10b disappears then such playing and such an enchantment system does not make sense.

Regress can be easily avoided. You enhance spares, not the gear you use or just buy/pre-order if possible. Downgrading and loosing items is one way of making sure the best items are not easy to get. If that didn't happen then the success rate will have to be nerfed significantly. One way or another best items should be hard to get.  

Last Edit : Jul 25, 2022, 14:52 (UTC)
# 89
On: Jul 25, 2022, 13:45 (UTC), Written by NotSoKookie

Complete nonsense, all of it.

If facts are nonsense to you then congratulations.

On: Jul 25, 2022, 13:45 (UTC), Written by NotSoKookie

Regress can be easily avoided. You enhance spares, not the gear you use or just buy/pre-order if possible. Downgrading and loosing items is one way of making sure the best items are not easy to get. If that didn't happen then the success rate will have to be nerfed significantly. One way or another best items should be hard to get.  

And this is nonsense. Sure sure. 300 tet black stars and 600 tet tungrads as backup.

If I do these clicks, I might as well uninstall BDO because they I will stay with what? 200 AP? And that's what most players do, click, and then end up with BDO.

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