PS - "But look at the archer class right now. Who are playing it? Literally nobody."

Ahem.  My IRL friend.  Title, BTW, signifies 100+ kills in node war / siege.  Other friend is Succession Ranger.  Another "Stormtrooper".  Archer / Succ Ranger are great group PvP classes, you just need skill and some gear to back it up.

No! First, that wasn't everything I've said. It seems you have left out the most important part. 

Second - what had to be said was said already in the responses above. 

Yes, you are free to voice your opinion and tell us what you don't like about the game, however you did not only that. You have also started asking for changes, which are against the game design and topped it up with insults at the end of your second post. 

Again, what had to be said, has been said by others. There's not much more to add but arguing how wrong you are on many levels, untill Senemedar shows up to tell us all how we have no options and progress is impossible. 🤣 

A better use for your time would be to install a slow pace game, like baldur's gate for example. You can pause, take your time, set up your battle and then resume. I don't know if you can find any slower than that.

Never saw that before, thanks for posting!

The Book of Combat by Crit has been the BDO PvP mechanics bible for a number of years. Recently, a few players took the initative to update it, so it is back to being relevant. Happy to spread the word :)

To get back to the topic at hand, I will agree with PeaceInChaos. 

The dancing, fast paced fighing, strategising and learning to use the right skills at the right time is the only reason I play this game. The unique combat is what pulled me in to the game, and what has kept me here even in times when upgrades were frustrating or life wanted me to go somewhere else. I would even go so far and say that with the simplifications that have happened in the recent years, a number of classes, and generally large scale PvP got a lot less fun and less skill-oriented. 

The specialty of BDO is exactly the amount of dashes, repositioning, not being target locked etc. A lot of western games have this "striving" mechanism where you would cast skills while walking, running, jumping and so on, aiming the skill with your camera and moving somewhere else. To me, that kind of combat is overdone and boring. There are so many games who use this kind of mechanic, because its easier to learn and implement. Which means to me, there is no need to bring this kind of thing to BDO. Games live by having a unique draw. In the past, that draw were BDO graphics. With newer games coming out, while BDO grapics are still high level (mostly, we aren't talking about textures and LoD), these games have more than caught up to BDO. 

The "fighter game"-like combat is the second draw. It is what makes PvP fun and less of a (aptly titled by PeaceInChaos) snoozefest. Of course, there are issues with PvP, like desync, reliance on high PC specs for FPS, too high damage, too many protections. 

But imo, slowing down combat, removing dash skills, relying on just walking around would be the worst thing that could happen to BDO.

Of course, you are free to voice your opinion. That is what the forum is here for. But at the same time, those of us who share a different opinion also need to voice our disagreement because we do not want the game we love to change in ways that would remove the enjoyment of the game.

As a new player, what I would still recommend to you is continue to play the game, and get used to the combat style. When coming from different MMOs with different mechanics and movement, the change can be jarrying, and seem overwhelming. BDO combat needs some time to get used to it and practice and learn. For me, that is good. Not everything needs to be easy enough to master in a day. As with everything in the game, the journey is the goal here.

Also, as you mentioned Evasion as a stat. The reason we have that is to introduce different gearing paths, letting classes play to their strengths, and introducing tradeoffs to keep classes and gear options relevant. Different options mean choices. And choices mean having agency, freedom to play as you want, and finding what works for you. While in the end, a meta always emerges, there are still options for what to go for. It also allows for rare items to not be permanently sold out, if other options are available (for example distos vs dawns or similar).

LOL. I just came back to Black Desert. Returning KR player. I remember playing some NA too but lost my Kakao account. And well thanks for the laughs. A good welcome back. Let me grab my popcorn. Also I added the 10th downvote to rub some salt into those wounds. I've legitimately never seen someone complain about actually good combat. At least ones that didn't have health issues. My friend has cancer and loves to watch because she can't play anymore so I share gameplay of awesome games with her. But you...what's YOUR excuse? xD what a joke. There's a lot of people who feel this need to post negatively and when told there's the door that's the solution you go up in arms as if what you are spewing out isn't toxic fumes of nothingness? Like...it's meaningless. Just. Go. Play. Another. Game. It's simple.

Just realized. "Legendary WoW". WoW SUCKS! The only thing that should fade away into nothingness IS WoW. And tbh people like you...

I understand what you mean brother and I've read the above posts too.

Thing is, BDO doesn't need a solution, combat has no problem in it to think of a solution. They wanted to make it fast, they made it fast, we play this fast combat, we love this speedy approach and it was one of a kind when it was first released in 2014. There's a reason people like this type of combat because it makes you feel powerful AND very fast, which is what some games choose to keep it simple so its easy on your eyes and inputs, but bdo was and is about this strong and fast character that you can control.

That's why if you want something that's not as flashy there are other alternatives which do a good job at it. BDO isn't exactly a mainstream game that's why it's not on the level of WoW, but only in terms of population. Otherwise if talking about the actual level of BDO I think it's far advanced than any other thing out there, of course that's my opinion on this flashy thing :)

It's not mainstream cus it's a hardcore mmo grinder. Progress takes years, because it takes many hours of grinding. Meat grindr lol. Combat has depth and is mechanically demanding. It will never be WoW, bdo enjoys it's stable roughly ~25k of active player base and that's it. It's not low, it's not high, it just does the job.

I get it it's your feedback and opinion, but like I said bdo doesn't need a solution at least in this department. It is good as it is the combat. That's why it's not the only game that can be played, there is WoW, FF14, Lost Ark and some others that have a toned down combat system, with the last one I mentioned having the fastest animations being thrown out from skills, but it's still nothing compared to bdo, well I'd say its about a 50-80% combat difference.

You don't need to listen people trying to make poor arguments for why the game needs to be this way or how it's good for PVP.

What is most important is often what is NOT said rather than what is said.  What none of those people will tell you is the defects of having such high mobility.  Because you can move at such speeds literally every fight is reduced to

Disable > Dead

That is virtually ever single fight on every class across every server and platform.  And it's never going to improve.  It doesn't matter what you want to call it, float, stun, freeze, grab, knockdown, etc.  You disable opponents and they die.  They are NOT permitted any counter or ability to do anything.  It HAS to be this way forever.

If an opponent is given a fraction of a second to move they will automatically be out of range and able to obtain 100% health again.  Thus the ONLY way this has ever been handled is Disable > Dead.

You can claim you enjoy this system, but it is NOT on par with any of the systems like Street Fighter or Halo. 

The fast mobility speed of some classes exacerbates the desync issue. The game also skips frames when rendering other characters, causing animations of mobility skills to look significantly faster than usual.

Or PA could actually get a decent game engine with using a better api and then increase tickrate of servers to being actually sustainable with fast movement. Right now its lower than kashkows for tickrate. Which is causing desync issues to be worse than ever. Movement speed increase has made it worse on top but part of it is the low tickrate compared to the older servers for NA at least.