Who exactly in this game has the ability to a simultaneous evasion/dp shred of 22% as debuf a player for 30 seconds????

While at the same time can give a 20% attk/casting speed + 25% movement speed buff for 60 seconds to self and ally..

Then give an additional debuff of -35% crit, 22% movement speed,-16ap and an additional -6% accuracy for 20 seconds.....

All while giving it a 10 second and 20 second cool down timer that is basically repeatable without losing buffs as with the exception of misty that also has a work around but we won't mention that one either.

What class does the above in BDO?

OH WAIT I can answer that ZERO classes have the above ability.

Hell they removed a 16% accuracy buff for 60 seconds for self and ally from my succ valk (prime echo) becouse it was too strong so they made us choose between a 12 second buff to self and ally for on our rabam or an 80% crit boost with extra damage. I get one or the other support or damage.

Some classes have a debuff better than others some have a DP debuff and with add ons sure we may get 4-6 seconds of a decent shred but no class in this game has both a DP evasion shred while giving yourself a 20% attack speed boost for 60 seconds.

But you think some of us are too stupid to see through your trash... give me a break yah let's give a class extra AP,crit damage and accuracy LOL....

NOPE NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Just like the rest of us you can choose extra damage or support.

Hey there

I really like the topic about giving shai the same ways of progression that the other classes already have. She is fairly powerful in the PvE sector as she is designed to be like that while also helping out with buffs to her and her allies. But like the post above said its getting out of hand if we now talk about balance and we mix in PvP aspects. The class plays different in PvE/PvP and let's leave it at that.

Let's go back to your idea of blackstar/dandelion sol. For most people it would be nice to have a Jetina Questline and the market to get their hands on a pen dandelion sol or pen artina sol. The blackstar gives 15 monster AP on tet which is half a draught, at pen level it will be 25. It might need an adjustment on her damage but otherwise I don't see why it should be not implemented, makes tagging her or tagging from her easier but also more expensive^^

Have a nice day!

More than agreed, its time for them to get rid of Artina Sol and make it as every other weapon. This is unfair.

I completely agree 

Pen Artina Sol was my first pen a long long time ago.

And since then I made new pen items for a different class.

But if they just made the caphras bonus stats work like the other weapons all the issues would be solved .

Just because the item increases song power each level, does not mean caphras can't be the same exact thing as dande, or if they wanted the keep the lifeskiller theme, bonus LT and Mastery etc. 

The tagging drawbacks are just so huge also. 

At this point, I'll even take them giving us the option to Convert a weapon already in the game to a Sol. If they are stressed over compensating the Artina Sol specifically then just Give us a Dandi Version and not a Black Star option since Black stars have a quest line involved. Just make it family bound and unsellable on the market. 

I'll take anything as long as I can tag like other classes. As I think most Shai's in this game would. 

Although another possibility if the stats are what are causing a problem then simply remove the song stats on the weapons themselves and just increase the amount of % in the skill menu. Add a Few More ranks and lock the highest percentage that match's the maxium value behind a character level. (level 61 for example). 

The fact that Shai's have to purchase another classes Black Star/Dandelion plus pay a $10 Marni fuel cost or (for me lose 30 Billion silver selling my Pen Awk BS to change my tag is absolutely ludicrous) sell the weapon on the market to repurchase another classes is just insane. 

Shai's shouldn't have to suffer like this. Archer doesn't even have Awakening and he still got a Dandelion/Black Star.