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DFS is most cancer aspect of game
Mar 18, 2021, 15:07 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 17:37 (UTC)
# 11

Turos, Thornwood, Kratuga, and sycraia are all competative with SE... Elvia makes raw silver, but depending where you are in the game that isn't the best thing. After you get the accessory addons most geared players will probably go back to places where you get caphras. 

Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 17:52 (UTC)
# 12
Écrit le : 18 mars 2021, 17:37 (UTC), par : Gazelle

Turos, Thornwood, Kratuga, and sycraia are all competative with SE... Elvia makes raw silver, but depending where you are in the game that isn't the best thing. After you get the accessory addons most geared players will probably go back to places where you get caphras. 

 

Just don't bother with Retteo. This kind of person is able to brag about how big a griefer they are while coming to creep such topics about etiquette and morals.

 

Additionally, if you get technical with him he'll just either dodge what you say or produce even more idiotic nonsense without backing up anything of course.

Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 18:17 (UTC)
# 13
On: Mar 18, 2021, 17:37 (UTC), Written by Gazelle

Turos, Thornwood, Kratuga, and sycraia are all competative with SE... Elvia makes raw silver, but depending where you are in the game that isn't the best thing. After you get the accessory addons most geared players will probably go back to places where you get caphras. 

Turos will absolutely not qualify.  Nor would Elvia, Ash Forest, etc.  One of the reasons Star's End is so crowded is due to the minimal gear score required.  Especially classes that can abuse lower end damage scaling.

 

Sycraia was already mentioned and is one of the only true competitors to Star's End that has nearly the same requirements.

 

I'm not convinced Thornwood really holds up especially with Dist Rings surpassing 300M.  This puts an enourmous burden on other areas to compete.

 

I don't believe in Kratuga either.  The barrier to entry causes major problem with things like Kama Blessing.  It only takes a few hours to max out energy.  In addition, I don't believe over time you will make nearly the same income.  People may show skewed videos or highlights of a few drops, but if you spent 10,000 hours in each location I think you would fall very short.

 

There is a reason so many players are at Star's End.  It's not because they don't know about these other locations.

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Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 18:21 (UTC)
# 14
On: Mar 18, 2021, 17:52 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

 

Just don't bother with Retteo. This kind of person is able to brag about how big a griefer they are while coming to creep such topics about etiquette and morals.

 

Additionally, if you get technical with him he'll just either dodge what you say or produce even more idiotic nonsense without backing up anything of course.

I'm trying to find anywhere in your post where you actually contribute to the conversation or pertain to the main topic.

I'm kidding, of course your post doesn't contain any of that ;)

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Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 18:31 (UTC)
# 15
On: Mar 18, 2021, 15:18 (UTC), Written by Purr

DFS is NOT an aspect of the game  its an aspect of the mentality of western culture

u can see this by the fact that NA and EU are the only ones who do duel for spot  

look at the interveiw with a KR player and they were shocked at the whole DFS mentality

over there they just wait their turn for a grind spot rotation  they dont greif  or guild dec or dfs  they wait their turn cuz someone else was there first... i know  shocking but its true

 

Correct!

Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 18:32 (UTC)
# 16

I've activated "Reject Duel" in the settings, and somebody rushing at me and spamming DFSDFS just gets one answer. Flag up or move on. Sometimes they do move on, sometimes they flag up and we see who's more stubborn or they try to outgrind me. Outgrinding my Maehwa is mostly no problem for the 3-4 FOTM classes the people tend to play. In that case i switch server if i really want to grind or just stick around and pester them, if they want owpvp, i'll give them that.

 

In the end, don't let people force you into their play style, do as you please.

Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 18:38 (UTC)
# 17
On: Mar 18, 2021, 18:32 (UTC), Written by BaehwaMain

I've activated "Reject Duel" in the settings, and somebody rushing at me and spamming DFSDFS just gets one answer. Flag up or move on. Sometimes they do move on, sometimes they flag up and we see who's more stubborn or they try to outgrind me. Outgrinding my Maehwa is mostly no problem for the 3-4 FOTM classes the people tend to play. In that case i switch server if i really want to grind or just stick around and pester them, if they want owpvp, i'll give them that.

 

In the end, don't let people force you into their play style, do as you please.

That is a good suggestion, but it does not resolve the issue of BDO being a defective product.  Both parties being equally annoyed doesn't sound like a good customer experience.

 

If Pearl Abyss want to say "we hope you are happy with the new content" they should take the necessary steps to make it good content that is suitable for a larger player base.  Not incentiviting petty squabbles over PVE content.

 

This isn't Shadow Arena

It's not a MOBA

It's supposed to be a MMO

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Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 19:03 (UTC)
# 18
On: Mar 18, 2021, 18:17 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Turos will absolutely not qualify.  Nor would Elvia, Ash Forest, etc.  One of the reasons Star's End is so crowded is due to the minimal gear score required.  Especially classes that can abuse lower end damage scaling.

 

Sycraia was already mentioned and is one of the only true competitors to Star's End that has nearly the same requirements.

 

I'm not convinced Thornwood really holds up especially with Dist Rings surpassing 300M.  This puts an enourmous burden on other areas to compete.

 

I don't believe in Kratuga either.  The barrier to entry causes major problem with things like Kama Blessing.  It only takes a few hours to max out energy.  In addition, I don't believe over time you will make nearly the same income.  People may show skewed videos or highlights of a few drops, but if you spent 10,000 hours in each location I think you would fall very short.

 

There is a reason so many players are at Star's End.  It's not because they don't know about these other locations.

How does Turos not qualify? You make over 150m an hour there easily and thats with low trash. Sycraia is not the same gear requirement as stars end, you can do Stars end with 300dp where in sycraia you need atleast 330 to be passible.

 

Choice has done numerous videos on the comparison and said SE will make more on average but sycraia will have the best steady income. I havent done SE in over a year outside of maybe an hour here or there. You can go 10 hours without getting a disto vs a steady income at any other spot. Thornwood makes just as much as SE as well if you include the scrolls that drop regularly there. And even then, I dont quite understand the argument. SE has a CHANCE to make more money than some other spots, but if you add in how contested it is and the droprate is abysmal I would hardly even consider it worth doing. 

 

The main issue with SE is that its disirable to high and low players and it's the only spot like it. But there are other spots. Also the reason distos have hit 300m is because most geared players are doing something else. Also Sycraia hasnt been as popular because of needing a key to get in, but now with sage it's basically a nonissue if you have a free tag. 

Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 18:55 (UTC)
# 19
On: Mar 18, 2021, 15:18 (UTC), Written by Purr

DFS is NOT an aspect of the game  its an aspect of the mentality of western culture

u can see this by the fact that NA and EU are the only ones who do duel for spot  

look at the interveiw with a KR player and they were shocked at the whole DFS mentality

over there they just wait their turn for a grind spot rotation  they dont greif  or guild dec or dfs  they wait their turn cuz someone else was there first... i know  shocking but its true

And how many not ready for war or clanless griefers KR have not much because most are in clan ready for war and they just war for the spot or don't farm at all on that channel but soon or later you will have to fight so you can farm so ... , but you know EU/NA have bigger population at least for me this means some DFS system a must

Last Edit : Mar 18, 2021, 19:05 (UTC)
# 20
On: Mar 18, 2021, 15:07 (UTC), Written by Zaolee

All spots taken and someone who is 3-year old vet or has right class will keep spot. 

 

Even if I win duel I dont feel proud or good about myself because im so decently geared and have 2bil pvp tag char. I kill in cc like 95% of time. When you been in both side of duels you start feel empathy and hatred towards this retarded system.

 

Usually if I lose I just log off and go play another game and I imagine others do same. Probably go afk fishing or something. I actually didnt even realize dfs was causing my inactivity until I saw pattern. But its also not fun waiting turns to just grind 1 spot for 1-hour when nolife sits there 10 hours.

 

 

If you want REAL PVP. Make 3v3 RANKED arenas like in wow. Not some bullshit unbalanced, rng 1v1. AND PLEASE MAKE MORE SERVERS AND MORE GRIND AREAS.

 

 

AND ESPECIALLY MORE GRIND AREAS WHERE LOOT DROPS FOR 2-5 PLAYERS = More reason to group up.

I automatically reject duel requests.  If I am in an area first, then I won't leave.  Nothing they do will make me leave.  Just ignore the duel requests

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