1. The toxicity in-game is addressed by arguing, blocking, reporting, and ignoring (or disconnecting from chat).

2. The griefing, decking, and mob feeding is a result of sandbox oriented MMORPG.

Oh wow you actually tackled my topic for once amazing to bad I already said in my other comment that those are bandaid solutions for a laceration sized problem. Cause how does me blocking someone stop that person from just spewing this toxicity to someone else exactly?

Say a brand new player who just finished downloading the game and the first thing they see in chat is 100 people spamming sexism, racism, and homophobic slurs. Ya if I was a new player to BDO and that was the first thing I saw in chat I would be instantly closing the game and uninstalling it cause that leave me with the expectations that BDO has an extremely canerous toxic community (which it does) and that my experience with other players will be meant with sexist, racist, and homophobic slurs. What your response to those new players that see that in chat the second they open the game and the topic being discussed in server chat is offensive to them or they just don't want to see that after a long day at work? Sure could just tell them to block server chat but now they have the mind set that this game's community is nothing but pure toxicity (which it is). So ya blocking people being sexist, racist, and homophobic doesn't actually solve the root of the problem.

P.S Also the second part just isn't true LOL isn't an MMORPG with an sandbox environment but it sure the hell has a very toxic community Fortnite too. Oh and overwatch, Call of Duty of and Rust, hell even PSO2 has some toxic players in it. But non of those games are nearly as toxic as BDO want know what they all have incommon a moderator team that activitly moderates the game and bans these users for breaking the TOS. Weird it almost as if moderators actually make communities less toxic when they punish players for saying sexist, racist, and homophobic slurs and doing toxic things.

1. They aren't bandaid solutions, they're realistic solutions due to the nature of human limitations. Nobody has the capacity to adequately care for everyone but themselves and the people who they care about. A stranger with issues from an unusual unknown part of the world is not even within reach for you to help. A GM from BDO cannot realistically hop onto a different MMORPG and sufficiently investigate player reports. A block functions to help you. A report functions to help potential victims. A sane person would know to message other victims to do the same. A neurotic unproductive person would engage in spam.

2. My response to new players who witness toxicity firsthand is the same: argue, block, report, ignore, or disable chat.

3. The root of the problem is people experience cognitive dissonance. When you see lions, tigers, or bears, you don't stick around no matter how majestic they may be, you fight or flight. A curious human has no business playing with full grown wildlife but an irrational one seeks the thrill of coming close to one and gets bitten. A wild bear is in the vicinity so the appropriate response is to report to an agency and warn people to take precautions. The permanent solution to cognitive dissonance or in-game toxicity is to listen to your mind and body. It's telling you to let go, it's not worth it, and to simply leave.

4. League of Legends and BDO suffer from similar issues embedded in poor teamwork. Node wars for instance has bad coordinators and communication which spirals into arguments, reports, and falling-outs. I suggest you purchase enough pearls so PA can employ competent moderators who investigate claims.

You change your opinion so quickly from "The griefing, decking, and mob feeding is a result of sandbox oriented MMORPG." too "League of Legends and BDO suffer from similar issues embedded in poor teamwork. Node wars for instance has bad coordination." So now your saying you agree you were wrong here ok. Good to know (Watch to try word in a way that doesn't make any sense to say your not but you can try and I'll laugh seeing you try, but really there nothing wrong with admiting you were wrong you know that right?)

Also your real world example don't really work in a video game. Cause the developer of their gamse want to make money how is telling new players to man up or fuck off in your logic help PA keep new players longer than 3 nanoseconds and make money?

Also a GM doesn't need to moderate every single person they just need to let players know that there activitly banning users for breaking the TOS. You know how many companies release monthly statements bragging about how many users they caught breaking the TOS and banned? Ya they do that to let people know there watch and enforcing their rules not to brag. And your telling me you'd willingly break TOS if you knew at any moment a moderator could catch you doing it and permanently delete your account that you spend years on? No I know for a fact you wouldn't. An that really all the moderator has to do not catch everyone with 100% accuracy but ban enough people to let others know there watching and taking action. And the average person won't risk their entire account being banned just to break the TOS once if they known there was even a 1% chance they'll be caught doing it.

An with LOL why that solution isn't perfect has nothing to do with similarities to BDO or LOL it simple you can shit out a new fake email and new account in seconds so who really cares if your free account were it progression in game doesn't matter actually gets banned? Same with fortnite.

I just wanted to drop in here to say thank you for getting the main point of this topic. That's mainly where I was going for but couldn't convey it properly. I don't want someone at PA watching a bunch of chats 24/7 thus exceeding their already limited resources. I just want the offenders to be warned that repeated iterations can have consequences. You'll see how quickly this damps down once someone with a little power asks someone else to stop whether it's out of politeness for others or having a risk of being temporary suspended for not following the rules. The only reason I listed Server/Group and not Roleplay etc, is because so far all of this takes place largely on these two places.

Perhaps Live moderation wasn't the right word as it can come off as if I wanted someone to watch and dictate what others can and can't say. That is not my intention. I just want to be able to help with this issue if I can.

1. It's mutually consistent opinions. League of Legends and BDO succeed and fail with similar characteristics despite their differences in gaming genre. The toxicity in LoL is due in part to its multiplayer oriented teamwork gameplay. The matchmaking is broached as the culprit by losers who accuse LoL for pitting them against better players. It is entirely expected in the ranked system. When there are losers, they will complain. Node wars also has losers, so therefore loser guilds complain and engage in toxicity. LoL has Co-op vs AI that could be won with one or two players which efficiently solves the problem of failed teamwork induced toxicity. LoL players can report intentional feeding as that goes against the design of the game based on teamwork. BDO players cannot meaningfully report griefing, decking, and mob feeding as that does not go against the design of the sandbox oriented game.

2. The developer has a target audience in mind. They want player versus player mentality. They seek and reward players who are risk tolerant in the face of RNG. Those who do not stay were not officially being catered to and would be financially irresponsible to do so.

3. The game design took into account of the personalities of the players who they think their game would attract. Risk tolerant people are often toxic, unfiltered, addicted, and aggressive. They spend a ton of money for very little gain. Once PA/BDO/GMs start handing out regular bans for the most basic toxic statements and word gets around, they flock to other games and waste money elsewhere. If that is your goal to kill BDO, go for it. The fact is a block and report are the only realistic measures one person can accomplish.

4. I'm actually having a difficult time parsing your English. As of right now and in the past BDO is giving free trials, Steam gave each account free access, and anyone can sign up with multiple emails for multiple accounts in case or if they know they'll be banned.

So BDO community is toxic because PA target audience is sexist, racist, and homophobias? What? PA activiitly aims to invite sexist, racist, and homophobias into their game. Your saying every one that plays BDO needs to accept the fact that by downloading BDO they're admitting they're a sexist, racist, and homophobia? Are you just trolling at this point? Your saying your a sexist, racist, and homophobia? Well ok than good to know you admit your a sexist, racist, and homophobia. Not sure what else to get from that when you say PA target audience is sexist, racist, and homophobias.

Also um you just repeated what you said before with #1 how that explains the sudden switch from "The griefing, decking, and mob feeding is a result of sandbox oriented MMORPG." to "League of Legends and BDO suffer from similar issues embedded in poor teamwork. Node wars for instance has bad coordination." is beyond me. You state that BDO is toxic only because it a sandbox oriented game I tell you this logic flawed so you quickly abandon to say "League of Legends and BDO suffer from similar issues embedded in poor teamwork. Node wars for instance has bad coordination." That kinda of troll response tbh you just don't want to admit your wrong.

Also 4# doesn't fit what I said at all. BDO may as well be a free game but it also a time investment game. Players aren't going to spew toxic BS if they know the account they spend 4 years building will be flushed in a toliet and send off to the land fill never to be returned to them. But players won't care for game like LOL were you can just shit out a new account and keep playing at the same level your month old banned account was at.

Your very bad at discussing things and understand human psycology aren't you? Is that why you choose to cherry pick and dismiss people's main points cause you just don't know how to respond or what others will find to be acceptable answers?

1. No, BDO target audience is risk tolerant people. The fact that there are overlapping toxic elements is purely incidental. For instance you continue to play the game driven by a number of psychological factors. You could be addicted to video games, but also very toxic.

2. No, I didn't say BDO is toxic. You can't even quote me on that. The teamwork demanded by LoL and Node Wars often leads to toxic behavior because there is always a losing side, sometimes sore losers, and a winning team per match. This is structured combat. What sandbox also entails (and enables) is unstructured combat.

3. BDO has a catch-up system in place but old veterans that play on new accounts for whatever reason retain the know-how to manage their time, resources, and wealth. They're more likely to circumnavigate the issues new players come across. They can join guilds they were a part of so they can return to form. Intelligence, disposable money, plays a contributing role in how fast they recover. Players who have friends and can keep friends is just as important.

4. I know how to respond. You can't even be civil.

I can't be civil? Right but you can't seem to figure out what others are saying. And half what you say literally contradict it self and makes absolutely zero sense because you can't admit your wrong, but you fail to realize that contradicting your self is a form of showing your wrong as well as trying to constendly change the subject which is about sexist, racist, and homophobias behavior in game. Which you seem to think is just genericly tied to being compeititive when last I checked I don't see sports players calling rival teams fags, bitch, and N word when they lose sooo. Ya what nonsense are you going to spout now that contradicts it self and again shows you just won't admit you have no idea what your talking about?

I mean your telling me banning players spouting sexist, racist, and homophobias slurs in chat will kill the game like sure it will cause you know PSO2 really just died and stop existing as a game when they went through a massive ban wave that removed thousands of toxic sexist, racist, and homophobias users in that game. Oh wait PSO2 still alive and perfectly health weird it almost as if your nonsense doesn't stand up against an acutal fact or argument. Also it clear your only one not being civil here when your using "You can't even be civil" as your newest excuses as to why you refuse to tackle the main point of my posts.

I can go back to copying and pasting if you'd like but than you just use "Your spamming" again as an excuses not to discuss my main point. Which will than result in you saying "I know what your saying better than you your self do" which is an hilarious excuses not to tackle the point of someone's post. I mean seriously I don't think someone has every told me what they think my words mean and that I don't understand what my own words mean, when I know exactly what my own words mean far better than any person reading them does.

But seriously what is this discuess your saying PA targets sexist, racist, and homophobias to play their game. Your saying banning sexist, racist, and homophobias users will result in the death of this game like what? It been proven that sexist, racist, and homophobic acts have themselves killed a game, never has a game died because moderators banned sexist, racist, and homophobic users. Were is this flawed logic coming from? Your telling me that IDK what my own words mean and that you know mean better than I do that you know what color underwear I'll be wearing before I do. What is this discussion? It an endlessly loop of me showing you facts and arguments and you cherry picking, dismissing and literally spouting nonsense that contradict it self. I don't even need to reply at this point cause your basically arguing with your self.

1. I didn't change the subject. I described closely related elements of two games to explain. There were no contradictions. Toxicity is well-documented in competitive e-sports.

2. No, doling out regular bans for the most basic (or fleeting) toxic statements would slowly kill the game. Bans should be reserved for the severe and frequent offenders. I encourage blocking toxic people and reporting toxic behavior.

3. I tackled your main points and addressed your non-issues.

4. You're mischaracterizing my judgment of your opinions as misrepresentations. I'm saying they're incorrect.

5. You're misrepresenting my arguments. You don't need to reply because you continue to misrepresent mine.