Please drop this topic. We need that large amount for group content and keep the difficulty. I don't want it to be water-down.
Best of luck talking sense to him. :)
Hystria i do 2.7k hour maybe more(7 eltens i think its called for marni realm), navarn you can easily clear 3k a hour wdym. Cents i havent been back to since like 2018 . Going from what people have said musas can do that easily but idk if thats true
Show proof, not empty words. I need 90 minutes with one hit kill archer with "bug" skill so 40 mobs dead per sec.
Also: it is supposed to be effective, collecting all drops, killing elite animals: griffins and leopards.
Also: without temp buffs, and without 700 GS.
It has to be done live. :) So that you don't try to misinterpret.
Oh. You refuse to, because I am going to win the bet. All you have left is empty words.
Then record and show the proof. You are player who won't even catch a horse.
In fact, one of the reactions in the horse taming request made me wonder about one thing : isn't there a minimal level of implication required for a quest/objective to be interesting, despite its rewards?
For example, there's a minimal price for every product or service, because under that price, the perception of the product/service may be biased (looks fishy/bad quality).
Isn't there a similar mechanics for these quests? I mean, the quest looks so easy that it breaks your motivation to do it?
Side note : I don't think great Marni stones are a good example here.
Show proof, not empty words. I need 90 minutes with one hit kill archer with "bug" skill so 40 mobs dead per sec.
Also: it is supposed to be effective, collecting all drops, killing elite animals: griffins and leopards.
Then record and show the proof. You are player who won't even catch a horse.
I prefer doing it live. Also if I couldn't catch a horse from your claim, I'd never even pass the magnus quest chain. But I did before the bug fixes(if there were any fixes). But you can't grind at the easiest elvia as PvE player, even with the optimal equipment. That is enough for me to know.
Side note : I don't think great Marni stones are a good example here.
Simple question: what's the point of killing 50k Cadrys if you can kill 50k Elvia mobs?
Also you still need to be lucky and drop this great marni box. Long ago playing VERY long in the middle end zones, I only drop two: naga and
centaurus. Do you really think I want to kill 40k centaurus more? And what will it give me? It's a waste of time.
BDO does not adequately reward the player for his contribution and the time spent on the game.
But you can't grind at the easiest elvia as PvE player, even with the optimal equipment.
I have never said that I can't, just that it doesn't make sense, it's not profitable and ineffective.
And if you don't remember PA lowered AP / DP requirements for Elvia, why? Just for me? Or maybe because almost no one played there because they did not have (and there is also no today) the right items.
Elvia only makes sense for people who have pen accessories. First of all, they have effective AP then, and secondly, an additional enchantment of Elvia mats accessories only makes sense for pen accessories. And since the prices of pen accessories are absurd, most players are unable to buy them. How much, for example, cost 6 not true end game but still nice 6 tungrads pens? 550b. With one hour of marni per day and agris sufficient for 60-90 minutes every 3 days and in the absence of events during which sometimes you earn ... zero a day, it would take me about 5 years to collect this amount.
I have never said that I can't, just that it doesn't make sense, it's not profitable and ineffective.
And if you don't remember PA lowered AP / DP requirements for Elvia, why? Just for me? Or maybe because almost no one played there because they did not have (and there is also no today) the right items.
Elvia only makes sense for people who have pen accessories. First of all, they have effective AP then, and secondly, an additional enchantment of Elvia mats accessories only makes sense for pen accessories. And since the prices of pen accessories are absurd, most players are unable to buy them. How much, for example, cost 6 not true end game but still nice 6 tungrads pens? 550b. With one hour of marni per day and agris sufficient for 60-90 minutes every 3 days and in the absence of events during which sometimes you earn ... zero a day, it would take me about 5 years to collect this amount.
Weren't we talking about the weekly and daily quests with the objective to make x amount of mob kills? :)
Not the first time I see someone shifting to another direction the topic.
On a side note: Never asked for it, never even mentioned it, never thought about it. Dev's decision - their words carry more weight. If they want to do this or that, if it's in their interest based on the concept of the game it will be done. But drastic changes - veeeeeeeeery unlikely. Maybe even never. I am not going to argue about it, because I'd look like a little whiner and it was unlikely to be ever reverted. At least it made sense tbh.
I'm somewhat amazed that anyone takes this guy's demands for more than they are - a joke. Not one of his suggestions makes any sense. For 1 mob daily quest to guaranteed pen Blackstar, to whatever else he keeps demanding. All because game too hard, whales and whatever...
While I kinda agree that greater marni stones' rewards are a meme, I doubt anyone fills them because for any other reason than the simple fact they're grinding there long enough to do it.
Simple question: what's the point of killing 50k Cadrys if you can kill 50k Elvia mobs?
Also you still need to be lucky and drop this great marni box. Long ago playing VERY long in the middle end zones, I only drop two: naga and
centaurus. Do you really think I want to kill 40k centaurus more? And what will it give me? It's a waste of time.
BDO does not adequately reward the player for his contribution and the time spent on the game.
No point, great Marni are nothing but a side benefit if you really want to grind there. But that's not a quest, nor mandatory in any way. That's why I said it's a bad example.
I'm somewhat amazed that anyone takes this guy's demands for more than they are - a joke. Not one of his suggestions makes any sense. For 1 mob daily quest to guaranteed pen Blackstar, to whatever else he keeps demanding. All because game too hard, whales and whatever...
While I kinda agree that greater marni stones' rewards are a meme, I doubt anyone fills them because for any other reason than the simple fact they're grinding there long enough to do it.
It's your problem that you don't understand that all my ideas are: to significantly increase playability and the player population.
Why do you think Pearl Abyss suddenly became interested in our opinion?
Here you have the answer:
82 percent came from outside of Korea, and Pearl Abyss doesn't listen to us at all.
Conclusion is simple: either this game will be more casual friendly or it will be dead.