So you have never been karma bombed. Are you realising player killer are using you, for their agenda? They want a free pass to kill. We need that Karma system. Karma bombing is bullshit. Only few guilds are doing this on EU, a lot of players are lying about Karma bombing.

Feel free to send your friends this here:

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=26668&_opinionNo=115713

This is the reason why i was never karma bombed, i never let the player karma bomb me.

And we pve player and lifeskiller can leave.

Even perma red players are saying the current karma system is not hard enough. It's not a real challenge for them.

And people are crying here karma punishment is too hard. Isn't it funny?

Think of it here, Life Skillers is in the middle of this PVX mess. They need some sort of leverage.... something...

Pkers is the root of this fiasco and brought the Life Skillers to go mental? Then why not apply a harsher penalty for pker? Got anymore great ideas? I am trying my best here.... if they want to come back even more Toxic, then PA will need to take serious action to save PVX.

PA wouldn't be able to manage control over all pkers... It's an impossible thing to do.

It's not by making easier for pkers to kill by decreasing the sanctions that it will calm the lifeskillers or "pver server" demanders.

I think you're defendind, as Azurwind says, real pkers, probably the kind that is toxic and that we don't want to face in the game.

Personnally, when it happens, I switch server or I even switch character and do something else.

I see the good intent here, but your propositions are not giving an achievable solution.

And no, I have no idea to give at the moment about it because it's not that much a problem for me... I see it around me, I see players complaining about it, I see griefers, I see pkers, I see streamers (twitch or in private)... I don't really see a problem there... Everything is part of the game! I find it fair and still it doesn't stop toxic players. And it's not that huge a deal for a simple reason: no matter what, no matter where, no matter the game, there're always toxic people, everywhere! And on every game!

So I deal with it with them facing the karma system and downgrading gear. Despite that I experience their toxicity but I adapt.

So, pkers should simply adapt too.

The system, would it change or not, will never satisfy both parts: the YES and the NO to delete the karma rule and downgrading stuff.

PRO and CONS clans are formed already.

PA can't handle an opinion not made by the majority.

Hhhhm...

Then why don't we decrease CD when jumping servers for good karma players? But increase CD for Red Karma players? Completely long CD for Red Players that is Perma red?

Edit: if this is not put to rest demands for Life Skill servers... there will be more on this forum. A lot!

You basically propose a solution to an issue that is already easy to avoid. Never, and I mean never, have I seen a pker join on the exact same server that I change to. I doubt any toxic red karma player will ever bother to hop servers and chase after the player they were griefing. They just stay in a certain spot, grief any passers-by and when they've had their fun they just log out. It's easy to avoid such players without creating any type of conflict. If you insist on staying on the exact same server on the same character and you still keep getting griefed then this is your own fault. As long as you ignore those players and do your best to avoid them, you'll still be able to enjoy the game. There's absolutely no need for PA to create any more complicated mechanics that require dev time just because jerks like that exist. Especially since there will always be workarounds to avoid these kinds of situations.

I'd like to say, yet again, this isn't just something that only happens to lifeskillers. Griefers are pretty much everywhere, outside cities, in certain grind spots, world bosses pretty much wherever you can imagine. No one is targetting the lifeskilling community and no one wants to banish *specifically* the lifeskillers from this game. It's just a minority of jerks, who like to waste other players' valuable time and those players stick out like an eye sore. Which in turn, makes you think that this game is infested with such griefers. 

Ok then. Okay... if you say so.

Let PA see a bunch of players demanding Life Skiller server and so on... noted...

"Want any pop-corns?" I am going to watch from the sidelines. I tried. It's time to stand back - eat pop-corns and see the carnage unfold.

such a long post

Typical "PvP-ers toxic only and PvE-ers are only holy water". Typical emotional bias. Heard that scenario many times over, to which it fails to manipulate every time.

I never said all PvP player are toxic. There are PvP player i even respect. The guys with skills and honor. I don't respect the bully guys. Who are screaming DFS on a spot or farm over a player. These days we have so many options not to grief. Did even read my post i have linked? If you had, you would known i'm a big fan of first-come, first-served. Then first-come, first-served is a good way to avoid trouble.

And have you ever been karma bombed? Feel free to share your story with us. :)