What is my agenda exactly simley? Why you pro toxicity and anti discuession exactly? Why is every post you make just a pointless shit post that shouldn't even exist that doesn't even and that never actually will relate to the thread it posted in 100% of the time? An when you going to show me the proof that shows I'm wrong about how loot tables work? I asked for it 100 times you never once showed me it no you just spewed insult after insult after insult and tried to derail my thread.

So ya can confirm Simley is pro toxicity and anti discuession based on this post he made here. He supports people saying "Your wrong cause I said so", he supports people calling others b***, he supports others tell people to drink bleach. It very clear what your agenda is here Simley since I'm clearly pro discuession and anti toxicity and you disagree with me so your anti discuession and pro toxicity.

I like this subject.  Mainly because I remember the days of Sausan's and Pirate's 5-person parties.  It was awesome.  Also, they plan on releasing a BDO-style dungeon this year, I believe.

In Sausan's / Pirate's back in the day (when those were the best spots), people would often actively search for groups in the grind zone itself.  People would go up to a party already grinding and ask if they can join.  Nowadays, people only group thorugh world chat, pretty much.  Solo grinders were not gimped in these spots either.  Solo grinding in Sausan's or Pirate's, as well as grouping in their main rotations, were equally viable.  Though grouping was the best EXP per hour, solo was competitive with it EXP-wise and gave more silver.  Either option was completely viable.

I remember going to Pirate's on my rinky-dink rowboat.  When arriving, I would see a group of 5 players grinding main rotation.  Circling the island to find an open side rotation, I'd see solo grinders.  I remember one time my guild and I were grouped in Pirate's main and another group of 5 wanted to fight over it.  It ended up turning into a massive GVG with multiple guilds involved.  That guild has since died off (R.I.P. Troublemaker), but I remember it like it was yesterday, one of the most memorable moments in my entire time playing BDO.

I wish the game would introduce a grind zone similar to these, spots where the average GS could choose to either grind solo or group and not be gimped by either choice.

I've been playing MMOs for over 20 years. done the hardest content in multiple games. Why don't you come up with some ideas, and I'll give you multiple reasons why they are bad ideas.

Here's some basics.

If it can be exploited, it will.

If you can get griefed, you will.

If the rewards are too good, all other content will die.

If the rewwards aren't good enough, no one will bother.

If it's too hard, noobs will cry.

If it's too easy, veterans will cry.

If you get something unique for it, most will never do it because they'll get bullied off.

If it's instanced, it will kill the world.

So let's hear your "great" idea.

I didn't say I had a great idea.. I was asking for some great ideas.

But if all some ppl can do, is rant that every idea would be bad to begin with - we wouldn't have this game. We wouldn't have had a PC, mobile phone or really anything else in this life. Not even fire :)

It's about taking chances and fine-tune after to make it better, or leave it when it doesn't work - and try something new. So yes, I asked for great ideas for some group content, because I believe this game can have that as well. Hopefully something new and not just a copy-paste from other mmo's. Aren't you creative? Try to bring something to the table instead!

Ugh, all I did was point out the usual flaws in ideas people have, because I've seen the same thing so many times.

If you can come up with something that takes into account everything I said, the most basic problems, by all means lets hear it. It's easy to say "Omg why don't the devs do x, y and z" without taking ANY inherent problems into account.

If you've played wow since the early days, you would have seen how the devs tried to innovate and implement new ideas for 15 fucking years, yet people still rather play VANILLA. Why do you think that is? Kepe in mind that Pearl Abyss is a tiny company in comparison, with a fraction of the resources.

I didn't say I had a great idea.. I was asking for some great ideas.

But if all some ppl can do, is rant that every idea would be bad to begin with - we wouldn't have this game. We wouldn't have had a PC, mobile phone or really anything else in this life. Not even fire :)

It's about taking chances and fine-tune after to make it better, or leave it when it doesn't work - and try something new. So yes, I asked for great ideas for some group content, because I believe this game can have that as well. Hopefully something new and not just a copy-paste from other mmo's. Aren't you creative? Try to bring something to the table instead!

If anyone took to heart what you are saying, no one would innovate or create ANYTHING....We wouldnt't have video games at all.

Hollow words when the most popular MMO is 15 years old. The most popular MOBA is 12 years old. The most popular competitve shooter is a reskin of a 21 yearold game.

You can throw around "muh innovashion" all you want, it won't change raelity.

An the world has exist for 100,000 years so? We should just assuming we're never going to come up with better ideas and stop progressing based on a few popular games that have been succeeding for less than 0.021% of this planet's existence? 

Now here the funny thing I know you'll just reply with spite. An I know me typing this part will make you try justify repling with spite by saying something like "Well when your just going to expect me to reply with spite what the point in even repling than.". As if it the only option you have. Just because I say I'm expecting how you'll reply doesn't mean you actually have to reply that way. So when you reply plz actually prove me wrong and show your pro discuession here and not anti discuession pro toxicity.

Maybe  we should have tried to convince BC folks that the wheel should not be created or even tried.