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BDO Group content!
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# 51

Oh he replied and it contains spite lol. Guess we can just bypass and ignore this cancer here and let get back to talking about adding group content into the game.

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Last Edit : Mar 22, 2021, 22:44 (UTC)
# 54
On: Mar 22, 2021, 18:25 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Here I thought up something basic that could be done to encourage grouping more an reward people for it even if you just solo grinding as well. First would be completely remove the XP penalties for being in a party there simple no need for them to exist it only discourages group an nothing else. Second would be to provide a buff for being in a party an having the members in your party within a max 500-1000m. (Range because some grind area are stupidly large like blood wolves so 500m maybe enough but idk in most zones.) This buff should be  5% XP, SP, an drop rate buff per member in the party to a max of 20%. This would encourage people grinding in the same zone to party with each other an socialize more. This also have positive effect of discouraging grief for a spot sense sole griefers will think twice about griefing when they know it will result in a 5v1 an DFS will change to "any room in your party?"

 

This a start to encourage grouping more while not killing the solo grind sense even if you choose to grind at non loot shared zone, say stars end there a benefit to parting with the other players grinding in other rotations in that zone. This is something many games have been doing recently an it shown to be successful at encouraging more group play without killing solo content.

 

I really like this. Incentives for grouping with different players could be a really great addition.

 

Hell you can even expand on this and have special extra bonuses for having all female/all male classes, or having a different class each, having full parties - or even all the same class.

 

Regardless though there needs to be incentives to group people up beyond the ability to have shared loot..

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 00:32 (UTC)
# 55
On: Mar 18, 2021, 21:44 (UTC), Written by Trueloves

I've started playing BDO about six months ago and I truly love it. The graphics are awesome, the combat system just perfect and there are tons you can do - no pressure to do anything you don't like. It's really great!

 

But.. I really miss group content where you and your guild, can get together for an evening of fun. I don't like the PVP group stuff (node/siege wars), but I do like Vell and Guild bosses. There are just so sparse, and it takes about an hour or so and then you're done and everybody feels we should do more - because it was so much fun - but there is nothing more to do as a group ..and we split up again. As an active guild we like more content to do together! There must be something you guys can cook up for us in this wonderful game?

 

Let me start by giving some ideas and let others take over with bigger and better and more original content ideas 

 

- Group/Party quests - like simultaneously doing several quests in one day/week

- Timed Quests (hide & seek, seek items, getting to x in time with % of platoon)

- Grinding x mobs from x locations in a weekly challenge with nice rewards for the guild 

- Dungeon/Raid like content with temporary role assignment (like tank/heal/dps or scout/ambush/attract etc)

- Challenging Guild bosses (with more tactics to learn - requires communicating with other players for example)

- ...  [reply with your awesome ideas] ...

 

Lets start by breaking this down.

Group/Party quests, While doing the main story line, you will notice there are quests labled "co/op" meaning that Any party kills count for it.  Most of the Daily quests that are kill X monster can be done in a Party.  The Seasonal Weekly quest also allows you to do group content.

 

Timed Quests, they have an adventure's journal entirely devoted to "timed quests" the vast majority of the community hated it.

 

Grinding X mobs at X location is already a daily quest that is server specific.  The "large" group quests for guilds are in the form of Gear for the guild elephant.

 

Dungeon/raid with assigned roles.  Please no stop suggesting this, if that is the type of game you want, go play one of the other 100 MMOs out there with that content.  PA should not be wasting development resources for the 1% of the player population that thinks they want this without realizing just how intense it would be to make a Dungeon/raid with role assignment while keeping the pace of the game, and overall theme of the game.  They tried this with Alter of Blood and Savage rifts, they were largely a massive failure.

 

They have weekly guild boss summon scrolls, some can be extremely difficult to take down, Adding more "complex mechanics" is just learning the dance moves of a new dance.  Take Nightmare Kzarka and Bloodstorm Nouver both of which killed the 350 GS boss alt for the first few weeks they were out, now I die once every 5-6 spawns because I have learned all the neccessary dance patterns to survive.  Dance moves and CC do not make a boss hard or complex, it just means you have to learn not to stand in the red circles and learn the patterns how they appear.

It's nice that you are enjoying BDO after 6 months, but please don't make fundementally game altering suggestions when you have only been playing for 6 months.  More often than not the suggestions you are asking for either already exist, or the vast majority of the playerbase doesn't want anything to do with those suggestions because it's fundementally a different game.

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 00:43 (UTC)
# 56
On: Mar 20, 2021, 02:04 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

With a reply like this, you're part of the problem of this forum.

 

I see strawmanning.  Dismissiveness.  Judgmental thinking.  And overall, just being a huge butt.

 

Hopefully this helps you introspect a little, if you're capable of such.  I know it's hard for some people.

I wish there was an Ignore feature for Vulpin and Smileybones, I don't know which one started it, but the 2 argue in every thread like the kids in kidnergarden.  They always just throw insults and contradict everything the other one says without offering anything useful to the conversation.  If those 2 just put each other on the Forum, maybe conversations would go better, but more likely 2 other idiots will just fight like 5 year old.

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 01:02 (UTC)
# 57
On: Mar 23, 2021, 00:43 (UTC), Written by Werbs

I wish there was an Ignore feature for Vulpin and Smileybones, I don't know which one started it, but the 2 argue in every thread like the kids in kidnergarden.  They always just throw insults and contradict everything the other one says without offering anything useful to the conversation.  If those 2 just put each other on the Forum, maybe conversations would go better, but more likely 2 other idiots will just fight like 5 year old.

 

I think most people don't really care about this game's forums. It's pretty dead compared to most other MMOs forums. Also I didn't believe it to be possible. But BDO forums are more toxic than Eve Online forums. You have lots vets and whales straight up telling people to quit game left and right. I mean the toxicity is coming from more than those two. To single only those two out seem pretty wrong, in my opinion. But these are all symptoms of a developer not giving a single damn about their playerbase, at least NA and EU playerbase.

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 01:35 (UTC)
# 58
On: Mar 23, 2021, 00:43 (UTC), Written by Werbs

I wish there was an Ignore feature for Vulpin and Smileybones, I don't know which one started it, but the 2 argue in every thread like the kids in kidnergarden.  They always just throw insults and contradict everything the other one says without offering anything useful to the conversation.  If those 2 just put each other on the Forum, maybe conversations would go better, but more likely 2 other idiots will just fight like 5 year old.

Not like your much better on these forums I've seen you constently insulting people on these forums and calling them idiots for not agreeing with your bias opinions of promoting the cancerous behavior known as DFS and mob feeding. In-fact the fact that you even posted this comment just proves my post here right. If your so against toxicity why you even make this post? Tell me one reason how this post you just made isn't promoting toxic behavior and isn't derailing this thread further? Mean while I'm trying to bring it back on topic because users like you wish to constantly start drama in here and insult others.

 

Any attempt to discuess anything on this forums is impossible because people like you feel shit posting like this which only aims to insult people is justified because you got upset over a discuession in a completely unrelated threads. It sad and pathetic that just when you we think a topic getting back to a civil discuession someone always has to make a post like this and create literal idiocy and drama cause their feelings were hurt in a completely different thread.

 

Clearly it was a mistake posting feedback on this thread about how to encourage group content. So here let me just delete that post and we can just shit post each other now instead of having a civil discuession.

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 01:33 (UTC)
# 59
On: Mar 20, 2021, 20:57 (UTC), Written by Easay9

I was in Troublemaker and my best times in this game was when the game had both group and solo options now your forced 1 way or the other and the ammount of party zones there just is not enough of. I also remember going into akman for the first time. It was a 5 man dungeon you needed so many buffs and such to kill the mobs there and it was group play this game just simply lacks so much of now. I think part of the issue is all the mobs in the game now are just not worth killing unless you clear them super fast. imagine if we had zones like how akman once was where you needed a party to even consider it and the mobs actually take work to kill . Thats one thing that holds this game back we need hard areas where money per hour is wayway more rewarding   at the cost of taking much longer to kill. Hadum kinda does this and its a step in the right direction but the zones are still forced group or solo

You were in Troublemaker?!  Noice!  Was a fun group for sure.  My first node war was with them, one of the memorable moments in BDO was my first multi-kill from a flame tower lul, all thanks to Troublemaker for taking in a lowbie wearing Grunil and Rosar weapons xD I joined near the tail-end of ther existence, though.

 

I was thinking about BDO group content, past and present, and Hadum the other day.  A thing popped in my mind.  What if....

 

There was a Elvia Pirate's Island?  Same concept as original Pirate's, where players could choose to either solo or 5 man group, without being gimped.  Except, with stronger mobs with interesting mechanics / AI.  I didn't get a chance to experience Aakman the way you described, but it sounds like a lot of fun.  IDK, but I am imagining a Hadum Pirate's Island right now and I'm going all ahegao face at the thought.  Current Elvia is cool, I'm enjoying it, but you're right, it's either solo or group, and I feel I can safely assume we both would like a less restrictive, relevant, grind spot similar to how OG Pirate's used to be.

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 01:44 (UTC)
# 60
On: Mar 23, 2021, 00:43 (UTC), Written by Werbs

I wish there was an Ignore feature for Vulpin and Smileybones, I don't know which one started it, but the 2 argue in every thread like the kids in kidnergarden.  They always just throw insults and contradict everything the other one says without offering anything useful to the conversation.  If those 2 just put each other on the Forum, maybe conversations would go better, but more likely 2 other idiots will just fight like 5 year old.

LOL what I'm going to do from here on out is ignore people who I think are truly toxic.  SmileyBones is a bit of a smart-ass, but he knows what he's talking about.  His game knowledge is superior to Vulpin, Retteo, and Fearless combined -- he knows his stuff.  He does tend to get wrapped up in the drama, though, but I know how it is. I've been there.  Someone trolls you online, and you're sitting there at your chair like, "WTF?"  Pretty crappy feeling, and I can see how venting out that frustration right back to them feels right, so I think that's why he does it.  It's easy to get wrapped up in the drama.  He only is this way with Vulpin, Fearless, Woots and Retto (Vortexii), though, least from what I've seen.

 

But yeah, I'm gonna just straight up ignore some people, unless presented with something compelling enough.  Not worth the headache.  I deal with enough idiots IRL.  Don't need any more.

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