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[CONCEPT] Improving The Pet Menu System + Redesign Concepts (Updated: January 11, 2023)
Nov 30, 2022, 16:39 (UTC)
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I'll be honest, I haven't had any time to think about this / update it. I promise I'll finish this up, IRL work is piling up quite fast. I'll do my best to finish this sometime this week if at all possible. Not that it matters so much that I do because the message is already there, obviously it's mainly to hope for improvements for this feature and the concepts are just for fun. Also bumping for more exposure since it's like on page 7 now :P
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On: Nov 30, 2022, 16:39 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost
Title: [CONCEPT] The Better Pet Menu System + Redesign Concepts
Family Name: Eirianne
Region: North America
The Better Pet Menu System (With Concept Renders)
Introduction:
Presently the Pet System is enjoyable but there are various improvements that could be made to improve the quality of life for players and as well as modernizing the user interface in a way that would behave more appropriately within the game's environment. I will be providing screenshots and details explaining how everything works together. The biggest quality of life improvement would be that we would no longer be restricted with only 5 Pet Slots but can create as many as the new limit is given since the UI would permit it.
Improtant Notes:
Plese note that I am in the process of designing these concepts therefore there will be a mix of V1, V2 and Mockups included but I do plan to complete this. Likewise, if you like this idea please feel free to like this post and provide feedback, I'm always excited to implement new features that are being requested. And if you want you can also browse my other thread which was considered by the Black Desert Online Studio here: New Wardrobe System. Also my next project is Workers 2.0. I am about half-way done with that but haven't published yet. Please look forward to it!
1. Main Pet Window
The present Pet Window provides easy to access information about the pets you have out but there are many features which could be improved. Most notibly being able to feed your pets by exact quantities or quickly peforming actions such as setting all pets to Active (Slow, Normal, Fast) etc... In order to illustrate the differences between the current pet window and the new concept I will begin by comparing both
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1.1 - Action to Get Here
■ You can get to this menu by clicking on the Pet Icon button or pressing the Open Pen Menu Hotkey
1.2 - Changes
■ The following changes are for the Main Pet Window|
● 1.2.1 - Obvious changes to the UI ● 1.2.2 - Click to change pet speed can be either on a per-pet basis or global. Clicking on this would first determine if all pets are of the same speed. If not, it will start on speed 1 and set everyone to normal. Then it will change it to fast on the second click and so on. ● 1.2.3 - Swap between Pet groups button would allow easily swapping between different pet groups. It would open a menu to the side of the Viewfield and ● 1.2.4 - Individual pet toggle buttons are shown at the top of the pet list for ease of use. Notice that item pickup toggle has been removed since I couldn't think of a reason why that exists. The removal of the button would keep the UI more clean from clutter. ● 1.2.5 - List of Pet buffs are still shown for each pet near the Pet Details panel. ● 1.2.6 - The Pet details panel shows the Pet's level in clear detail and also the hunger and XP level of the pet. Presently not all information is present. ● 1.2.7 - The background color and foreground colors used are dependent on the Pet's rarity and if the pet has reached max level. I tried using "MAX" insted of "10" but it looked too wordy ● 1.2.8 - Pet Effects are now easily presented and also shows a list of effects that are not currently in effect due to the pet being "disabled" or "too hungry". ● 1.2.9 - Pet Feed button brings a menu where you can either feed Max, once, or a given amount. ● 1.2.10 - Manage Pet Group button brings up the Pet Manager window |
1.3 - Comparing Active vs Inactive Pet
■ This could occur when the player tells a pet that they shouldn't be doing anything anymore. (Toggled by speed)
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1.4 - Swap Pet Groups Panel
■ Placeholder - Swapping pet groups should also be easy. Currently I am still designing this. Will post it in a few days and elaborate on this.1.5 - Pet Groups Panel (Active)
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2 - Viewing Pet Groups
■ This could be what the Pet Group system looks like when you go to manage it.| Pet Manager - Group Viewer |
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2.1 - What Makes this Important
■ Presently if you want to manage pet groups you have to go through the tedius process of scrolling through a single menu system and designating a Group number. With this system, you no longer have to worry about it since managing pet groups and pets within groups is very easy and quick to use. There would no longer be a 5 Group limit but rather the groups could be (hypothetically) as many as necessary by clicking on the [ + ] button at the bottom of the group list.3 - Browsing Pets when adding a new pet
■ Let's begin by viewing the Pet Browsing window. This occurs when the player wants to replace a pet or add a new pet to otheir roster.
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3.1 - New Features
■ The following are new features that could be added to this sytem
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● 3.1.1 - Dedicated Window ● 3.1.8 - Ability to view currently selected pets for multiple selection (will explain in a bit) ● 3.1.9 - Container which displays pet information (will explain a bit) |
3.2 - Selecting Pets
■ The following happens when you click on a pet from the viewport window and is added to the list on the right and then when the player clicks on the pet itself in the menu on the right
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Viewing Details of the selected pet |
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3.2.2 - Reason Why This is important
■ Currently we are stuck scrolling through a long list and it's pretty bothersome trying to find the RIGHT pet. But now with the proposed abilities of being able to SORT BY and Search, you could easily find the pets that you are looking for. Additionally, you're able to view more details than you ever could. Currently you have to make a lot of assumptions through mental calculations on what the final result will be like or search database websites to see what pets do exactly what. Here, all the information is presented to the player.
4 - Pet Upgrade System (PLACEHOLDER)
■ The current pet upgrade system is good but I believe it can be better since the entire UI mockups have changed. There are also some issues with the current system. For example, you cannot currently rename pets. Secondly, Enhancing pets requires the user to scroll through a long list. I believe that the new design would be better used because it is less clutter and causes less confusion.
NOTICE!
I have not yet completed the V2 Concept! I will have this done in a few days. The v1 concepts are found at the bottom of the page for documentation. This should be ready within a few days at the latest.
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5 - Other Ideas that may work
■ The following ideas are more suggestions that could possibly enhance the pet experience. Credit is given by user submission.| Idea | Credit |
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If you like this idea...
Please be sure to upvote this, reply, share it with your guild etc etc... The more people get hyped about the idea of a wardrobe, the more likely they will implement it. I know they talked about wanting to do it before but it's been a very long time. I don't have any Reddit or social network account so feel free to share this idea however you like!
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Other Ideas: Please add a function of targeting x named monsters as soon as you enter an area!
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Jan 30, 2023, 16:27 (UTC)
# 33
^ Hello and thank you for your support! I'd like to ask you of something.
#1. Could you please edit your post so you don't quote my OP? It's very long.
#2. Could you please elaborate more on what you're asking? I'm not sure what you mean.
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# 34
As someone with more than 5 pets, this is much needed 7 years ago!
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# 35
I will be dedicating some time on the weekend to finalize this concept so I think it's a great time to bump this thread back into existence haha
Update: Immediately after I said this, I was presented with a workplace opportunity so I have a lot of studying as "prep work". So for the next couple of weeks I'll be super busy and what little time I have to relax my brain, I'll be playing BDO rather than working on suggestion stuff. Thanks everyone for your kind support! I will finish this suggestion after I'm done with the cert training.
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Feb 10, 2023, 16:52 (UTC)
# 36
On: Jan 11, 2023, 17:45 (UTC), Written by Equalness
Eventually, someone has to say it, and as it turns out, that someone is me: I very much prefer the current UI to this, and here's why.....
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I'll have to agree with Equalness's sentiment here since I feel like less is more sometimes. The proposed UI is quite large and less compact than the current one and some functions that are currently easily accessible have been hidden behind menus. When I am out grinding and calling my pets or switching groups, the last thing I want to do is clicking through menus - every click piles on over the course of time.
However! I really like the way you designed this from an artistic perspective and it looks very modern and clean to me. Quite appealing if I have to say so and the added QoL-features from the group management / preset system are phenomenal and something I'd love to see in BDO.
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Feb 10, 2023, 19:47 (UTC)
# 37
Thank you for your honesty and your kind support!
I do admit that I had more flexibility in terms of artistic design than what the game devs would because traditionally you design from low resolution making your way up. But in this case and in my defense, I didn't really pay mind to resolution and its intention was in fact for 4k displays so it would look rather large on a lower resolution.
These concepts act more like a fashion show. It won't ever see the light of day as it is but its extravagance is intended to illustrate/highlight the technologies that can be employed to pave the way for the future. I'm hoping that the devs look at it in this manner where they may not necessarily copy it exactly because in a practical sense it may not work, but reference to it as a means to open their minds to new, wonderful possibilities but most importantly, new features which the community have been requesting.
And with that, perhaps we can as a collective have our part in making the game just that much better. :D
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Feb 15, 2023, 21:43 (UTC)
# 38
This is great! It would be a huge improvement for sure.
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# 39
Just going to bump this thread.I have pretty much no time to update this thread / concept since it'll take a good afternoon due to my studies. There were some really good ideas being pitched that aren't in the OP yet so hopefuly those will get noticed. I honestly am so tired at night that I can't even play anymore but I really want to xD Since feedback board is being monitored again, I wanted to bring this topic back to the front and hope it gets more attention. Will be able to give it some time sometime in march, sorry for the sudden disappearance. Life throws you lemon grenades as they say :P
But please feel free to improve upon this idea with your own :D My idea is not the best idea but it's the fact that we could really use a improved pet system that is the most important takeaway here. So your ideas can be much better than mine, just don't be too shy from sharing yours!
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Feb 23, 2023, 19:38 (UTC)
# 40
Would it be possible for you to message me on discord when you have the time? There are things I would like to discuss with you about other areas of the game that could use a UI change (and are easy to change), but I don't wish to derail this thread with it, as it's not related to pets.
My discord name is: Equalness#8949
Thanks in advance.
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