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How to handle DFS
Mar 22, 2021, 20:45 (UTC)
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# 1

This weekend was a great test.  I was able to obtain lots of real data to help illuminate what the game is actually like.  Especially for new players.

While many that requested a DFS simply left without incident, here is the problem and the current Solution.

 

Every single player that tried to overtake the spot attempted to mob feed.  100% of them (As always).

 

100% of the incidents where a player trying to OVERTAKE an already occupied area.

(None of the omg someone is Karma Bomb me nonsense)

 

Is is important for the community to understand how to deal with these bullies.  At NO POINT during any of these encounters did I yield the rotation to another person.  Every single of these players ended up leaving either red or fed up with the competion.

 

PRO TIP:

You should be prepared for this type of encounter.  Have alts/tagged characters ready.  Bring "special equipment" if needed.

 

Step 1:

BLOCK these players immediately.  You need a permanant record of their behavior.  This way when you encounter them later on they are properly identified.  Do not speak to them, do not acknowledge them, once they have initated trying to PK or Feed.

 

Step 2:

Prepare for the long haul and stand your ground.  Bullies look for sheep and small fish.  You need to set a good example and not allow them to push you around.  Remember, we are NOT talking about actual duels or proper behavior.  This is stricly about players trying to force themselves upon you.

 

Step 3:

No mercy.  If you ever encounter these same players later on, months later, years later, it makes no difference.  You need to make an impact.  These people need to be taught a lesson.  You grind in their face if you ever come across them.  You will KNOW it's one of these people by their inability to speak.  That is the real reason behind the block.  It's a permanent identifier.

 

Success:

NONE of the people that tried to take the spot the entire weekend where successful.  I put the bullies in their place and maintained the rotations.  We need more people to push back and say NO TO BULLIES.

 

Only you can prevent forest fires, and online bullying.

#MAKE_A_STAND

 

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 16:17 (UTC)
# 3

I have duels automatically rejected and I ignore the requests.

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 17:12 (UTC)
# 4
On: Mar 23, 2021, 16:17 (UTC), Written by Columba

I have duels automatically rejected and I ignore the requests.

That's a decent setting, but keep in mind not everyone has the ability to deal with mob feeding.  Especially newer players that may be testing end locations with only sufficient gear.

 

The poorly geared players are actually engaging in quite a lot more challenge and risk, but they are also vulnerable to people taking advantage of them.

 

A lot of the player base honestly can't deal with mob feeding that easily.  It's a serious issue that needs to be looked into.  The tears won't fix your crystals either.  The game also allows many CC's including grabs to do virtually no damage even to a 0DP player.  A 300AP player can abuse the system by literally CCing a 0DP character and virtually NEVER PK them.

 

Players can also exploit DP builds to the same effect.

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 17:12 (UTC)
# 5

The last time I simply played dumb and talked to the one saying "DFS", persuading him to leave. :) Therefore no bloodshed between us. He was surprisingly civilised too.

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 17:15 (UTC)
# 6
On: Mar 23, 2021, 17:12 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

The last time I simply played dumb and talked to the one saying "DFS", persuading him to leave. :) Therefore no bloodshed between us. He was surprisingly civilised too.

That can help and as stated

"While many that requested a DFS simply left without incident"

 

Not everyone was so aggressive.  I have found players that will wait for the rotation, or just move on.  In some end game areas that is not a solution because innevitably you will encounter mob feeding.

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 17:17 (UTC)
# 7

OP hiding behind a fake name to avoid repercussions of his actions, noice.

Ngl if I didnt know better I'd assume its a Janna alt at this point

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 17:31 (UTC)
# 8
On: Mar 23, 2021, 17:17 (UTC), Written by Helegnes

OP hiding behind a fake name to avoid repercussions of his actions, noice.

Ngl if I didnt know better I'd assume its a Janna alt at this point

I read your post and here is your tally:

 

Points Made: 0

Points Refuted: 0

Relation to topic: 0

Value: 0

 

Maybe try to participate in the discussion next time.

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Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 17:47 (UTC)
# 9
On: Mar 23, 2021, 17:17 (UTC), Written by Helegnes

OP hiding behind a fake name to avoid repercussions of his actions, noice.

Ngl if I didnt know better I'd assume its a Janna alt at this point

Wait. What?

Last Edit : Mar 23, 2021, 18:08 (UTC)
# 10
On: Mar 23, 2021, 17:31 (UTC), Written by Retteo

I read your post and here is your tally:

 

Points Made: 0

Points Refuted: 0

Relation to topic: 0

Value: 0

 

Maybe try to participate in the discussion next time.

The points have been made in your other spam topics ^^.
In any case, you stand here portraying yourself as 'taking a stand for the little guys', yet in practice you've provided a walkthrough on how to become the most unpopular player in your server.

 

At the end of the day, we can agree to disagree, but you should not actively spam the forums promoting a sub-culture that is generally considered toxic to the game community (atleast in its current form on EU NA). And, the fact that you shy away from displaying your name means that you do not appreciate the general masses' opinion at all; you'd rather speak from behind the safety of an alias.

 

But, if you insist on points refuted;

On: Mar 22, 2021, 20:45 (UTC), Written by Retteo

This weekend was a great test.  I was able to obtain lots of real data to help illuminate what the game is actually like.  Especially for new players.

While many that requested a DFS simply left without incident, here is the problem and the current Solution.

 

Every single player that tried to overtake the spot attempted to mob feed.  100% of them (As always).

'lots of real data' refers to what exactly? You have provided no documentation on these tests, nor proof of their actual occurence, let alone the data you speak of.

 

You have not included any detailed description of any methodology; did you take over an arbitrary grind spot, and wait for someone to come by and request a duel, only to grief them? Did you use multiple accounts/participants? Which grind spots? In what way did people approach you, in what number?

 

You continue on to list tips for people in these situations, you claim that they must 'stand their ground'. This essentially implies leave whatever guild they support to avoid decs, and pressing the respawn button every 4 seconds? I find these tips rather vague and inconclusive. What do I do if I have expensive crystals? What if these people start hunting me withholding me from ever grinding on specific servers?

 

TL;DR, your post is full of holes, and your mentality is detrimental to the established community.

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