#Gameplay_General
So theres no next season at all?
Mar 23, 2021, 02:14 (UTC)
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Apr 19, 2021, 10:54 (UTC)
# 191
Écrit le : 19 avr. 2021, 05:47 (UTC), par : tomgore
Yeah. To have low-griefing PvE servers you need to have a game that supports and encourages cooperation and group gameplay, such as GW2.
BDO is built from ground up to promote conflict. Would require a massive overhaul in how loot and experience sharing works to be able to do decent PvE without griefers.
Exactly. You can't take this game designed with owpvp, remove owpvp and think that the job is done. To simply be on par with the current PVE MMORPG references, BDO would already need maaaaany tweaks, but that's logical when you try to change a core part of the game.
But with that said, even while keeping owpvp I think BDO would benefit from having more group spots, to emphasize group grinds and group spots conflicts, and to reduce the pressure regarding 1vs1 performance of classes and allow more focus on small and large scale situations.
Because balancing classes for both 1vs1 and group conflicts seems like an impossible equation.
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Apr 20, 2021, 01:31 (UTC)
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On: Apr 19, 2021, 05:47 (UTC), Written by tomgore
Yeah. To have low-griefing PvE servers you need to have a game that supports and encourages cooperation and group gameplay, such as GW2.
BDO is built from ground up to promote conflict. Would require a massive overhaul in how loot and experience sharing works to be able to do decent PvE without griefers.
Straight to the point. THANK YOU.
On: Apr 19, 2021, 10:54 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud
Exactly. You can't take this game designed with owpvp, remove owpvp and think that the job is done. To simply be on par with the current PVE MMORPG references, BDO would already need maaaaany tweaks, but that's logical when you try to change a core part of the game.
But with that said, even while keeping owpvp I think BDO would benefit from having more group spots, to emphasize group grinds and group spots conflicts, and to reduce the pressure regarding 1vs1 performance of classes and allow more focus on small and large scale situations.
Because balancing classes for both 1vs1 and group conflicts seems like an impossible equation.
THANK YOU!
More ways for new players to enjoy PvP would be nice, as well as more spots viable to mid-game level players. Although, I can think of MANY spots for mid-game, so maybe just more opportunities for group play.
Personally, would love to recapture some of the magic of Pirate's Island - a grind spot suitable for both solo and group play. A spot players could go to and actively seek out groups within the grind zone, a type of social interaction we don't have that in today's game.
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Apr 21, 2021, 13:07 (UTC)
# 193
Écrit le : 19 avr. 2021, 05:47 (UTC), par : tomgore
BDO is built from ground up to promote conflict.
And you dont need forced pk to be in conflict. Olivia & season already prooved that enough.
Écrit le : 18 avr. 2021, 23:11 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud
Another question? ;)
Look at this guys still trying to evade and not answer,I told you already, you are not smart enough to have what you try work.
Either you answer ( but we know it wont happen as you have zero argument, and all your previews fallacy attempt was answered and corrected ) either you assume & confess you have nothing to back up your fantasy.
In the meantime lets copy paste again and keep expose your behavior.
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots
So again Mr strawman.
- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO
- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:25 (UTC), par : Woots
To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin
Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.
Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge
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Apr 21, 2021, 13:26 (UTC)
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On: Apr 21, 2021, 12:56 (UTC), Written by Woots
And you dont need forced pk to be in conflict. Olivia & season already prooved that enough.
Basically, you're saying that conflicts are not related to the presence of owpvp. At least one step in the right direction.
Olvia and season also proved that without owpvp, the game is not the same, and not better.
Time to forget these bad band-aid "solutions".
For the rest... Just check my previous answers! ;)
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Apr 25, 2021, 08:24 (UTC)
# 195
Écrit le : 21 avr. 2021, 13:26 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud
Basically, you're saying that conflicts are not related to the presence of owpvp. At least one step in the right direction.
Olvia and season also proved that without owpvp, the game is not the same, and not better.
Time to forget these bad band-aid "solutions".
For the rest... Just check my previous answers! ;)
Look at this guys still trying to evade and not answer,, still not smart enough strawman
"Olivia and season also proved that without owpvp, the game is not the same" still have nothing to do with your premise, nor explain anything as you keep throw blank words with no argument, let me refresh your strawman memory again, and keep expose yourself.
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots
So again Mr strawman.
- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO
- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:25 (UTC), par : Woots
To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin
Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.
Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge
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Apr 25, 2021, 09:54 (UTC)
# 196
On: Apr 25, 2021, 08:20 (UTC), Written by Woots
Look at this guys still trying to evade and not answer,, still not smart enough strawman
"Olivia and season also proved that without owpvp, the game is not the same" still have nothing to do with your premise, nor explain anything as you keep throw blank words with no argument, let me refresh your strawman memory again, and keep expose yourself.
Oooh boy... I'm not sure you look really smart by spamming forums like this.
And what's your opinion about the temporary removal of season servers?
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Apr 25, 2021, 10:25 (UTC)
# 197
On: Apr 25, 2021, 09:54 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud
Oooh boy... I'm not sure you look really smart by spamming forums like this.
And what's your opinion about the temporary removal of season servers?
Show some respect for old players like Woots. Woots knows what's up.
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Apr 28, 2021, 07:45 (UTC)
# 198
Écrit le : 25 avr. 2021, 09:54 (UTC), par : Sadalsuud
Oooh boy... I'm not sure you look really smart by spamming forums like this.
And what's your opinion about the temporary removal of season servers?
Ohh boy look at that guy still dodging, Strawman is there boyz.
lets keep expose your unability to have argumented discussion when it come to your own premise, and need to keep strawman.
That's fine you cant be honest and confess you have jack sh#t as you think your strawman face will be saved doing so, be my guest.
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:15 (UTC), par : Woots
So again Mr strawman.
- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO
- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )
Écrit le : 14 avr. 2021, 10:25 (UTC), par : Woots
To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin
Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.
Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge
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Apr 28, 2021, 11:15 (UTC)
# 199
Écrit le : 28 avr. 2021, 07:42 (UTC), par : Woots
Ohh boy look at that guy still dodging, Strawman is there boyz.
lets keep expose your unability to have argumented discussion when it come to your own premise, and need to keep strawman.
That's fine you cant be honest and confess you have jack sh#t as you think your strawman face will be saved doing so, be my guest.
This whole issue has been explicitely told to your face countless times and demonstrated with factual arguments for years, you're simply in denial because the words 'sorry I was wrong' aren't included in your vocabulary.
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