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400-600 m/hour Bloody Monastery, Orcs...
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# 31
On: Mar 25, 2021, 19:01 (UTC), Written by MajorThor

Considering the gear investment required to farm these new zones efficiently you can bet that 600m per hour is only a fraction of the cost of their next upgrade. Imagine needing a Pen BS Mainhand as a Succ Guardian or C20 Kzarka which is just about 85-100bn. That's 166 hours of grinding which is a month of working full time for 1 item. I'm only 273k so I can't really benefit from the higher zones so I don't benefit from them but it doesn't bother me that the ubergeared are given an efficient/challenging area to play the game.

That doesn't take into account the game as a whole and the SMH effect.  If something in the game has excessive pay outs then that is simply the meta and broken aspect of the game.  The same as old Siege Payouts, SMH, Grind Locations, etc.

 

Not to mention disposable cash shop items are required 100% of the time to make that activity viable.

 

It can completely destroy the value of other tasks.  Crafting items in workshops, gathering, imperial, fishing, bartering etc etc.

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# 33
On: Mar 26, 2021, 01:38 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

2nd video his gear is 279/285/344 - His most expensive item is TET BS or PEN Kutum, which is just 18 Billion at most - not 85-100.

They already lower 2 zones there this week to 250 AP even cut their HP bar by 20%. And yet you say you can't go there at 273k? Look there is nothing to be afraide of in Hadum areas. You can go there at 273k, make a fortune, it's not a scary place.  But choice is yours of course.

 

There are people afraid to go to any grind spot including those not in Serendia on a Hadum server, because of that stupid warning when you try to do anything in the Elvia servers or even switch to it.

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Last Edit : Mar 26, 2021, 04:27 (UTC)
# 34
On: Mar 26, 2021, 01:38 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

2nd video his gear is 279/285/344 - His most expensive item is TET BS or PEN Kutum, which is just 18 Billion at most - not 85-100.

They already lower 2 zones there this week to 250 AP even cut their HP bar by 20%. And yet you say you can't go there at 273k? Look there is nothing to be afraide of in Hadum areas. You can go there at 273k, make a fortune, it's not a scary place.  But choice is yours of course.

I wasn't aware that they already modified the AP recommendations for some of the new grind zones. Also: His most expensive item may be Tet BS or Pen Kutum but his NEXT upgrade IS Pen BS which IS 84-100bn as I indicated in my initial post.

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# 36
On: Mar 26, 2021, 12:56 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

His next update will not be PEN BS, while he still missing 2x TET Distortion Earrings, TET Tungrade both Ring and Belt and 3 PEN Armors. 
And than he will need lots and lots of Caphras. 

He is far away from aiming for PEN BS Weapons.

Another 600m/hour 286k Lahn video from ORC, with 45 min weapons, while 400m/hour with out.



"2x TET Distortion Earrings, TET Tungrade both Ring and Belt and 3 PEN Armors. And than he will need lots and lots of Caphras."

 

so what's your point again? that's like 190b worth of gear you just summed up. even at 400-600m/h that's still going to take like 400-500 hours of active grinding WITH lootscrolls. and that gear isn't even special these days anymore, but rather the entry requirement for all relevant pvp. 

 

just to put that into perspective, that amount of time is an entire uni semesters worth of studying if you go by ECTS (without the lectures themselves and stuff). or the amount of time it takes to learn an entire language like french, according to the FSI. 

 

if you only have time to grind 2-3 hours a day, it's going to take you half a year or more before you can even begin to really enjoy pvp. 

 

do you want players at the bottom to stay at the bottom forever or something. 

 

why are people complaining about finally being able to make some decent paced progress. 

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# 38
On: Mar 26, 2021, 14:17 (UTC), Written by Astronaut



Also where do you see me complaining. 



"So is this it Pearl Abyss? O'dylitta, Star's End etc - forget all of them, lets create 600m/hour grind zones and lets throw grind balance out of the window. Game over? You giving up on the game? Easy mode now?

Can someone explaine what is going on here?"

 

Right here lol

Last Edit : Mar 26, 2021, 21:13 (UTC)
# 39
On: Mar 26, 2021, 14:17 (UTC), Written by Astronaut

Also where do you see me complaining.

No one knows what you want. One minute you saying this makes progression too easy the next post you think it fine and just want buffs to other zones. So ya your kinda sending contradicting messages here.

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Last Edit : Mar 26, 2021, 23:11 (UTC)
# 40
On: Mar 26, 2021, 21:13 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

No one knows what you want. One minute you saying this makes progression too easy the next post you think it fine and just want buffs to other zones. So ya your kinda sending contradicting messages here.

His argument makes no sense...buffing other zones would just push the hedum players there to make more money dueling for spot against players 50 gs+ below. It totally makes sense why PA did this...op is a part time Pr new player p!ssed he can't  really grind end game spots to make big bucks to shortcut the grind WE ALL had to do to comfortably enjoy Hedum. Pen Ogres are 80 bil, up from 25. If you can't grind Kratuga or Stars End making 175m hr+ with your current gear, then why the hell should you be going to Hedum where they hit harder? Why should you be making 300 mil an hour in a revamped old spot where someone with more gear will just stroll in and now make 600?

 

Simply put, you don't need that level of gear yet so don't need to worry about making 600 mil an hour, focus on grinding a few hours a day to pay for that 3bil tet basi and not expect to get it in a single day,  you could...but 3 days is about avg...as someone on hedum is working towards a 36 bil basi (Cheapest decent gold acc) and needs that increase a hell of a lot more then you. Look at how much time it would take to make that? Pulling these players away from the spots where you should be grinding is a good thing for you. Stop worrying about other people and focus on your own shit. Getting full Tet accessories to grind SE and Kratuga fast is a hell of a lot cheaper then a Pen Accessories...and I'm glad PA realized the 150m an hour deal wasn't working...sad that you can't. 

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