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Why does nobody talk about AoS?
Jan 7, 2023, 15:09 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 7, 2023, 15:09 (UTC)
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Apparently, seems like there aren't many people, who ...... care :) for lack of better word, about AoS's problems.

From the weird match making to unbalanced build options, from constant crashes to completely incompetent game responsiveness and so on!

  I don't want to start ranting and complaining about all those, but i would really like to understand,

how are 'we' looking at stuff like, more pearl accesories??? (example),

but we can't give a second thought on how, a somewhat new and big, part of gameplay for many, is absolutely atrocious.

 Since i gave some example problems before, let me explain:

*Match making, can put 2 or 3 classes together, many times its unplayble to compete with a combo of classes like that, (i think its clear enough, to know that if you put 2 shais together and a class like,lets say, ninja - against a Sorc, Zerk and Musa, the first team just doesn't stand  much of a chance). of course it gets more complicated, but for starters, would it be THAT! hard? to make the system avoiding duplicates on the same team?

*Unbalanced build options: mainly have to do with resistances, in my mind. Some classes have already high resistances (to lets say example grabs) they can stack resistances on the other crowd controls and be almost invinsible to them. That's in my opinion, not such a major problem but it still is.

If you are trying to make  competitive gameplay, luck shouldn't be a factor. And yes, i understand that there are some classes that can't always stay protected and they need some resistances but everybody should have the same, with no way of changing it with Class passives or Armors etc.

++ Grabs, should be also! changed for competitive purposes, atleast for AoS, a class shouldn't be able to grab again after 1 attempt for atleast 30seconds. My OWN OPINION, i guess ++

*Constant Crashes: thats a big one for me. I can say, that it absolutely makes me want to stop playing the game and im not joking. There is nothing more disturbing, than randomly being removed from the game, for no clear reason to what caused it.

''B,but you can rejoin... THAT's a JOKE! You get almost no time to rejoin, i had atleast 8 games now, where i crash at the 5th round (loading screen from 4th-to-5th mainly) and even if i TRYHARD your log in system, apply the steam code thingy ASAP go throw the 100.000 loading screens to actually enter the game and get the message to log in back to the arena. I am either dead(cause my character didn't even spawn) watching my team lose 2v3, or they just lost causing me to crash AGAIN(which happend to me twice)!. Either fix your files, or STOP forcing me to play/WIN 2 more games, to compensate, for your incompetence :) 

*Last but SURELY Not least! Clearly the game can't register iframes-super armors-frontguards properly. WHY! can't you make the Competitive mode, capped on atleast FPS.. I know that fixing it through ping from internet connection, is probably not even possible, i guess. But how, am I supposed to excuse being dragged out of protected skills, constantly?(keep in mind my computer may not be the best, but i can have above 200fps fighting in nodewars).
Its not even, oh it didn't register my input, no.

I will see my character move, to the skill's animation, i will see the visual verification that my skill is active (lets say Super Armor) and maybe half a second after, i am knocked down on to the ground, OR even worst, i am Stiffened and the skill is on COOLDOWN! (atleast twice a day, if not twice a game!when the skill doesn't register properly but it activates the cooldown timer).
The only thing that comes to mind, fixated frames for everybody (120fps for example) so if i have 300 frames, and somebody got more, or less, it doesn't have to compete with who's input was faster, on that matter.

Clearly i don't know what im talking about and my solutions may be ignorant or what ever. But for real! why do i have to get a dose of disappointment, trying to enjoy the game, EVERY,SINGLE,TIME !?

Last Edit : Jan 7, 2023, 15:27 (UTC)
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Because nobody like talk to wall, especially  to wall that only  tell you to check out partner streamer with big anime jigling boobs on half screen.

What ever the reason, Korean developers don't listen/hear/care about what been said here.

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Last Edit : Jan 7, 2023, 16:12 (UTC)
# 4

Since PA did not fixed not even a single AOS issue between seasons why would anyone care? It's clear as day that the devs don't care to fix it so it mostlikely going to be end up as a semi dead content for that two dozen wannable who abuses some FOTM for "fun", while the majority just going to leech it for rewards.

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Last Edit : Jan 7, 2023, 17:58 (UTC)
# 5

AoS honestly feels like a joke and that it's left to exist in such a way really isn't giving this game a good image. Play a meta class with a meta build and play on potato graphics settings with a high end gpu and uncapped frame rate or be prepared to suffer.

Every time I decide to participate, both the previous season and this one, I go in pretty optimistic initially but the experience ultimately sours my entire perspective on Black Desert as a whole. It casts such a negative and unflattering light on the game that it makes me deeply question my investment into the game, both past, present, and future.

I sometimes wonder if PA only has interns working on this game anymore. Especially with how long Drakania has been left to be a garbage bin tier class and instead of fixing her first they decide to release two new classes instead. I know that's a bit off-topic but it's really been frustrating the hell out of me. Drakania Awakening especially feels poorly made with little critical thought put into her design. Succession seemed to have some competence to the design and animation before they murdered it but Awakening has been trash since it's inception and they've done next to nothing to address it for nearly half a year now.

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Last Edit : Jan 7, 2023, 17:56 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jan 7, 2023, 17:52 (UTC), Written by Velvy

Play a meta class with a meta build and play on potato graphics settings with a high end gpu or be prepared to suffer.

That's not only AOS, that's the whole game in every its aspect.

Last Edit : Jan 8, 2023, 10:38 (UTC)
# 7

Honestly could care less about a 3v3 PVP mode, I like the fact that the gear is equal, but the pvp in this game is pretty jank, even when both players have the same stats. This will probably become as dead as horse racing soon.

Last Edit : Jan 8, 2023, 12:17 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jan 8, 2023, 10:38 (UTC), Written by Dillon

Honestly could care less about a 3v3 PVP mode, I like the fact that the gear is equal, but the pvp in this game is pretty jank, even when both players have the same stats. This will probably become as dead as horse racing soon.

agree, 3v3 adds again just so many variables that we know PA is not competent to consider.

1v1 would be a better choice, if you a shai just reroll, add a surrender option in case you encounter a class you know you cant handle and be done.

Idk, maybe just me.

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Last Edit : Jan 8, 2023, 13:36 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jan 8, 2023, 12:17 (UTC), Written by Adonaj

agree, 3v3 adds again just so many variables that we know PA is not competent to consider.

1v1 would be a better choice, if you a shai just reroll, add a surrender option in case you encounter a class you know you cant handle and be done.

Idk, maybe just me.

The people wanted an 1v1 arena so they can duel there, buit instead we got this 3v3 with gear and extra stat mimicks that is completely disconnected from the game with additional random map BS that noone wanted.

Just as usuall PA devs can't follow simple instructions. All they would've needed to do is make a que for the already existing arena of arsha map, literately half hour work for a single developer, but nah, why would they do something logically for once...

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Hnnie
Last Edit : Jan 8, 2023, 16:37 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jan 7, 2023, 15:09 (UTC), Written by Alakyru

Apparently, seems like there aren't many people, who ...... care :) for lack of better word, about AoS's problems.

From the weird match making to unbalanced build options, from constant crashes to completely incompetent game responsiveness and so on!

  I don't want to start ranting and complaining about all those, but i would really like to understand,

how are 'we' looking at stuff like, more pearl accesories??? (example),

but we can't give a second thought on how, a somewhat new and big, part of gameplay for many, is absolutely atrocious.

 Since i gave some example problems before, let me explain:

*Match making, can put 2 or 3 classes together, many times its unplayble to compete with a combo of classes like that, (i think its clear enough, to know that if you put 2 shais together and a class like,lets say, ninja - against a Sorc, Zerk and Musa, the first team just doesn't stand  much of a chance). of course it gets more complicated, but for starters, would it be THAT! hard? to make the system avoiding duplicates on the same team?

*Unbalanced build options: mainly have to do with resistances, in my mind. Some classes have already high resistances (to lets say example grabs) they can stack resistances on the other crowd controls and be almost invinsible to them. That's in my opinion, not such a major problem but it still is.

If you are trying to make  competitive gameplay, luck shouldn't be a factor. And yes, i understand that there are some classes that can't always stay protected and they need some resistances but everybody should have the same, with no way of changing it with Class passives or Armors etc.

++ Grabs, should be also! changed for competitive purposes, atleast for AoS, a class shouldn't be able to grab again after 1 attempt for atleast 30seconds. My OWN OPINION, i guess ++

*Constant Crashes: thats a big one for me. I can say, that it absolutely makes me want to stop playing the game and im not joking. There is nothing more disturbing, than randomly being removed from the game, for no clear reason to what caused it.

''B,but you can rejoin... THAT's a JOKE! You get almost no time to rejoin, i had atleast 8 games now, where i crash at the 5th round (loading screen from 4th-to-5th mainly) and even if i TRYHARD your log in system, apply the steam code thingy ASAP go throw the 100.000 loading screens to actually enter the game and get the message to log in back to the arena. I am either dead(cause my character didn't even spawn) watching my team lose 2v3, or they just lost causing me to crash AGAIN(which happend to me twice)!. Either fix your files, or STOP forcing me to play/WIN 2 more games, to compensate, for your incompetence :) 

*Last but SURELY Not least! Clearly the game can't register iframes-super armors-frontguards properly. WHY! can't you make the Competitive mode, capped on atleast FPS.. I know that fixing it through ping from internet connection, is probably not even possible, i guess. But how, am I supposed to excuse being dragged out of protected skills, constantly?(keep in mind my computer may not be the best, but i can have above 200fps fighting in nodewars).
Its not even, oh it didn't register my input, no.

I will see my character move, to the skill's animation, i will see the visual verification that my skill is active (lets say Super Armor) and maybe half a second after, i am knocked down on to the ground, OR even worst, i am Stiffened and the skill is on COOLDOWN! (atleast twice a day, if not twice a game!when the skill doesn't register properly but it activates the cooldown timer).
The only thing that comes to mind, fixated frames for everybody (120fps for example) so if i have 300 frames, and somebody got more, or less, it doesn't have to compete with who's input was faster, on that matter.

Clearly i don't know what im talking about and my solutions may be ignorant or what ever. But for real! why do i have to get a dose of disappointment, trying to enjoy the game, EVERY,SINGLE,TIME !?

There are several reason i can list them here and it doesnt have much to do whith your comments...

#1 There has been a long standing bad relationship with this developer/publisher not listening to the feedback of 90% of the playerbase this has translated into VERY VERY UNPOPULAR decisions. Case in point is the Ruins Map it has been stated by an overwhelming majority that NO ONE  wants the debuff and buf fmechanics within the game SO what did PA do on the 1st one ??? they expanded it and now they added in the stupid HP buffs and defensive buffs on other maps the MOST POPULAR MAPS are the straight up PVP ones with no gimmics.

Instead of just keeping the maps and dumping the trash mechanics they completely ignore everyone and the second players die to those mechanics on ruins most usually quit playing.

#2 Again eather PA publishing team OR the PA development team you can pick pretty sure they are both to blame here, had stated that they were going to use the Metrics from AOS to help work on balancing the game then when the metrics come out what do we get????? Buffs to the strongest classes in the game and clompletely ignoring complaints from players accross the board ESPECIALLY when those metrics line up with what they are seeing in the live game on Siege and NW for highest body count per class.

Then you get things like Nerfs to Succession Valk... continued nerfs to Valk and other already in the dumpster classes like Tamer yet they buff Sage?!?!? buff Ninja?!?!?!? BUFF RANGER<----- I mean really... already broken classes there is a reason Succ Sage got nerfed 2 months after it launched but thats OK the games broken with the Musa and Zerker out there lets add another to the list..

The above is one of the main reasons that players are staying away from AOS no matter how fun it could be people just dont want to be content for those that abuse mechanics of 4-5 classes.

#3 The rewards for being in AOS are non existant to add insult to injury they didnt even reset the rewards for the weekly if you collected them you get ZERO..

So here is the break down:

Zero silver gain from playing this mode

Time is an issue.. Takes about 1 min 30 seconds from time you click to find match to get into the loading screen if your lucky the higher your points worse it gets you can spend upwards of 5-6 mins waiting. then when logged in takes another 2-3 mins to start match 90% of the time its the full 2 mins after a 30-40 sec waiting period. Each match last less than 30-50 seconds some especially with certain classes like sorc could take the full time leaving everyone sitting that has been killed then you wait about min between matches roughly taking ~13-20 mins per match for roughly 1 min and 30 seconds of play time all of which offers ZERO in return for net gain in gear.

Final goal in BDO is to Progress AOS offers ZERO IN PROGRESSION it is a complete waste of 20 mins per match so most take there rewards and dont bother.

#4 As you stated in one of your points input lag counter is a major issue in AOS thos classes that have higher speed, iframes and certain grab classes have a much higher advantage this has to do with the system resources and how they have set it up.. Marni servers have been laggy and buggy since day one if you fight often in BA or RBF it is common to say BA does what BA does.. So classes like Zerker,Musa, Kuno, grab classes such as Mystic,Stryker,Zerker then add in issue's from DK/Sorc and now the Woosa and you have a disaster of a game mode that even invites players to abuse evasion to the worst possible classes again balance is needed but this PA we are talking about.

In closing these are just a few things most of us are thinking about and outside of getting the rewards and playing the 1st few days AOS is dead content for a MAJORITY of us in BDO.

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