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Musa needs serious help
Feb 5, 2021, 20:46 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 5, 2021, 20:46 (UTC)
# 1

         I have played Musa for at least 3 years now, and i have mained almost every class at one point or another... Staying completely objective, Musa currently is among the lowest classes for high end pve, doing slightly worse than Tamer, Awakened Kuno, and has been for years now.  A simple look at the overall damage numbers and hits on his skills compared to other classes and the lack of skill buffs/debuffs is all that is needed for reasonable comparrison. On top of that Musa has some of the lowest accuracy modifiers on his skills across the board. Receives No All accuracy Skill buffs, No All Evasion Debuffs, No Accuracy Passives, No accuracy on Ebuff, No All AP buffs save for 20ap on Ebuff. Something most classes receive on a simple low CD skill buff. Remains the only evasion Class with no All Evassion skill buffs or All Evasion on Ebuff and his pasive is for Melee Evasion only. On top of these lacking features No Damage modifier buffs of anykind, No movement speed increases, a single +10% attack speed increase on a useless low damage, unprotected skill, a single all DP -15 debuff. No Grapples or useable iframes... Just looking at this objectively, its not too difficult to see why Musa is in the state it's in. Musa has great mobility, and good protections on its awakening skills. Its catches, tho not great and likely do require more skill than most classes are adequate. The class simply cannot put out enough damage and its less than mediocre hit rate has been an increasing issue for far too long now.  

     I would think it somewhat reasonable to look over Musa's ToolKit and give the class some of these things when so many other classes receive most if not ALL of them. The class needs a serious reasonable look at its overall damage potential.

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Last Edit : Feb 6, 2021, 00:20 (UTC)
# 3

Both Musa and Mae need some serious love.

I personally can't name much off the top of my head because it's been awhile since I mained Musa but I would love to see the stamina nerfs reverted, a good I frame outside of the meme Chase one that works maybe twice a year, fix the E buff that removes SA off Crosscut if they haven't already, give them some passive accuracy like you said and buff their PvE. Hopefully they start showing them some love cause they do need it.

Last Edit : Feb 6, 2021, 01:59 (UTC)
# 4

      Musa PvP is not terrible in the right hands. And yes Bon skills are pretty strong on Musa as well as Projection... The main issue with musa 9/10 is dps damage output. With Projection in the right hands still possible in most situations to do enough damage to players, provided your not cucked by the low accuracy in the evasion meta. Imo Musa doesnt need more iframes. Doesnt really need too much... Theres one class i can think of that has as bad accuracy or even slightly worse accuracy than Musa by comparrision. Lahn. And Lahn certainly does not struggle to put down opponents in PvP and has terrific PvE.... Compare the damage output on key skills between Lahn and Musa and its not hard to see why. Musas main issue is damage output, especially in PvE. Other than that Musa again falls off in defense due to his lack of evasion skill buffs or passives. But again for the most part Musa for all that it lacks isnt terrible overall. It has great mobility, plenty of super armor and Bon Skills only helped these protections... it just hits like a wet noodle.

Last Edit : Feb 6, 2021, 08:53 (UTC)
# 5
On: Feb 6, 2021, 01:59 (UTC), Written by Nhymeriian

      Musa PvP is not terrible in the right hands. And yes Bon skills are pretty strong on Musa as well as Projection... The main issue with musa 9/10 is dps damage output. With Projection in the right hands still possible in most situations to do enough damage to players, provided your not cucked by the low accuracy in the evasion meta. Imo Musa doesnt need more iframes. Doesnt really need too much... Theres one class i can think of that has as bad accuracy or even slightly worse accuracy than Musa by comparrision. Lahn. And Lahn certainly does not struggle to put down opponents in PvP and has terrific PvE.... Compare the damage output on key skills between Lahn and Musa and its not hard to see why. Musas main issue is damage output, especially in PvE. Other than that Musa again falls off in defense due to his lack of evasion skill buffs or passives. But again for the most part Musa for all that it lacks isnt terrible overall. It has great mobility, plenty of super armor and Bon Skills only helped these protections... it just hits like a wet noodle.

But Lahn ALSO has better iframes / protections AND a ranged grab. Its not even about the damage, lahn has so much more to "play with". But yea their accuracy ratings are utterly garbage too. Overall i dont get why some classes get almost 30% acc for free in their kit and others have to fight with 6% on key skills without selfbuffs. 

Last Edit : Feb 6, 2021, 08:14 (UTC)
# 6
On: Feb 5, 2021, 21:48 (UTC), Written by Tsougkrana

Right now musa is pretty strong due to the double BON projection.

No. 

Last Edit : Feb 6, 2021, 19:58 (UTC)
# 7
On: Feb 5, 2021, 21:48 (UTC), Written by Tsougkrana

Right now musa is pretty strong due to the double BON projection.

Makis is that you? 

Last Edit : Feb 6, 2021, 21:26 (UTC)
# 8

     

On: Feb 6, 2021, 08:12 (UTC), Written by Angerypie

But Lahn ALSO has better iframes / protections AND a ranged grab. Its not even about the damage, lahn has so much more to "play with". But yea their accuracy ratings are utterly garbage too. Overall i dont get why some classes get almost 30% acc for free in their kit and others have to fight with 6% on key skills without selfbuffs. 

     I agree, and Lahn has +12% All Ev self buff, and much better skills buffs... Most classes do. Its just a comparison to musa lack of damage on skills... This again is completely evident when looking at Musa's PvE numbers at places like Sycraia. Where the entire focus is to output as much damage as possible and move to the next pack. Musa recieves roughly 15 - 20% lower trash than your average class. Up to 40% less than the top tier classes. They just can not put out enough damage. 

     Look at a class like... Sorc. Moves around in complete i frames, receives multiple +15% all Eva self buffs and on E buff. Receives Accuracy self buffs, Accuracy Debuffs, Several DR shred Debuffs, more than 1 All Evasion Shred Debuffs, etc... Sorc was looked at and determined to get damage increases and accuracy increases on skills, another All Evasion Shred last summer. 

     This isnt a rag on Sorc either, you could make this example with pretty much every other class within the game. When you come across Musa, nothing. Its not hard to see how much Musa is lacking overall. What is going on here? 

Last Edit : Feb 9, 2021, 02:48 (UTC)
# 9

The class has been in a bad state for a few years now and just keeps getting worse.  There used to be a decent number of musas around, but the numbers have dropped and I almost never see them.  There's really no point when there's classes that do everything musa does, but better and adds to it.  The skills are fun, but there's so few that seem useful considering the long CD and niche uses for a few of the awakened skills.  The pre awakened skills have tiny hitboxes and seem to do low damage also.  Would like to see this class at least be in a mediocre state so I could have a reason to play it.  With the succ wiz/slow stacking meta it's just absolutely not fun to play this class.

Last Edit : Feb 17, 2021, 15:36 (UTC)
# 10

I havent seen any musa in months now. 

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