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[Suggestion] Revisit the size and functionality of the big ships
Jan 17, 2023, 13:06 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 17, 2023, 13:06 (UTC)
# 1

Title: Revisit the size and functionality of the big ships
Family Name:
Meatballia
Region (NA/EU): EU
Suggestion/Comments:

Look at the Epheria sailboats and frigates. They had a lot of details and functionality. You could've had some fun, way back when, going with a few friends on a sea monsters hunting trip. Then admire the amount of details and functionality vanishing as the boats get bigger. To the point where... You have a humongous carrack, with its size gutting the sensation of speed during Breezy Sail. With absolutely nothing for anyone else to do while aboard (aside from standing like a monkey on top of one of its many masts), except maybe throwing a wedding party.

- No sight of the cannons at all (I mean, no geometry either), not to mention transfering the use of them from the captain,

- No point in the existence of the cabin, where you could've repaired your gear there, study the sea map at any point without the need for a compass

- No sight of your sailors crew, pretending to do stuff - cleaning decks, climbing the sails, you know, what fantasy sailors do.

- No light coming from the 5 lanterns at all. Not even enough to cast a small aura around them, let alone light the place a bit.

What the big boats do, though, is to clog the Vell's realm, with annoying clipping and glitching and all the ports. And yet, we're supposed to get an even bigger ship. Why? Can't they be smaller and better equipped, both esthetically and functionally? It would please the eye and fix quite a few annoyances... 

Thanks for reading!

Last Edit : Jan 17, 2023, 13:34 (UTC)
# 2

The bigger the boat, the more boring it looks and buying a pearl skin doesn't really change the lazy work around it. Looking at what PA is capable to add to game now (Magnus and new dungeons), i'm sure polishing a boat that takes, i dunno, 3 months of constant work could indeed look a bit more rewarding on its own, without spending money but maybe that was their plan. Swap the issue under carpet with fancy skins and that's that.

Sea content severely lacks at this point in game, starting from big boats looking empty, to extremely long building process and low rewards. I understand water is tricky and all, but it covers half of your BDO map, so having it still at the state it is and not assuring players interested in that content makes me worried that they will just abandon it, like many other smaller things in game, just this one is huge. Magnus existence in Port Ratt will also skip the "Improve sea" part. Its fair, boat takes time to build and people dont wan't to spend hour just to go there and back but it doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist in between.

I really hope for better future for sea content and the boats but also wish it won't end up at horse racing level. Completely forgotten and dumped to just Vell task and afk bartering for a bigger boat that has no actual challenge to be tested upon.

Last Edit : Jan 17, 2023, 13:39 (UTC)
# 3

Bartering is, indeed a slow and boring process. Still no sailors that can handle the currents. Still good chance to get bugged into the island and/or wreckage. It's when you have all the time to observe the problems the boat and - in general - the sea content has. And idd, as far as pve is concerned, getting the best gear, best boat, best sailors amounts to nothing. Cus here! Have this gambling mechanic via which you can get a bigger, emptier boat, that will cause more clipping, more adventurers getting kidnapped. 

I dread to think of how desolating the look of the new temporary boat will be. All empty again, surely, all 1-man activity, no utility, no props, no nothing and, as you mentioned, hardly anything to do with it. :/

But until then, I'm looking at what we have. And how it can be made better. The boat that is. Sea content is already another topic that, well, will be looked at and improved soon™.

Last Edit : Jan 17, 2023, 14:57 (UTC)
# 4

I dont blame anyone for not wanting to choose to partake in the Ocean content as it is at this point. When i think of the time it takes to aquire a Carrack or other upgrades its not worth the rewards that are presently available from quests, sea monster hunting, or bartering when you look at the time spent vs the rewards from staying on dry land.  Many bugs that have been reported for more than a year are still not addressed as well as the overall lack of any updates.  I swear they think nuking Port Ratt is gonna fix it but too little for too long has turned many away from what could be a lot of fun for small groups.  So yes the idea of allowing guildmates to interact while on most of the ships would be a nice idea but i fear based on the past the most we might see is a new costume with sailbaot stenciled on it.  I have never understood why we never see any items that pertain to ocean content as even login rewards. We are the black sheep of the community i swear.

Last Edit : Jan 17, 2023, 18:45 (UTC)
# 5

Not everything needs to have centaurs or Hexe levels of silver rewards. But it should be fun and functional. And it's neither, for the most part.

Between conditions you can't mitigate (cus the sailors to handle currents aren't born yet), bugs you can't avoid (like getting glitched atop the water the moment you log to your sailor, with the only way out being escape or channel swap) and content that has a strong 2017 flavour... I was really hoping for more than just extra volume (on both the carrack skins and the new boat). 

Bigger isn't always better. A big, empty ocean. A big, empty desert. A big, empty boat. Sailing is a time-sink, akin to an afk activity, only one you can't afk, due to bugs, desync, nonfunctioning Mermaid's Wish. And it's not just unrewarding, but not fun either. Or, well, not as fun as it could be. I can't ask a friend to join me in sea monster hunting without a boat, cus they'd just afk fish inbetween staggers from the monster attacks. You'd think that a boat the size of a carrack would need stations to repair, to cook for sailors, to plan the next move, etc. Not just a humongous deck that so often tends to start by being completely submerged, forcing you to restart the game.

A lot of whinning can fit on the topic. But redesigning the carracks to be more attractive and interactive - for the amount of time and resources they require - would be a nice first step for PA to show that they're not just dropping random stuff that no one asked for and congratulate themselves on reviving the sea content with it...

Last Edit : Jan 19, 2023, 05:29 (UTC)
# 6

Any improvements to the outdated ocean content is a big +1 from me. I agree that ship polish/interactivity would be a great place to start.

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Novinae
Last Edit : Jan 19, 2023, 05:56 (UTC)
# 7

Textures and LoD first, though. I am completely disheartened after 10 days of constant bartering, seeing potatoes turn into islands 20 meters away and sometimes not getting their trees even when I'm anchoring. I have very little hope, though. 

More important to keep throwing out subpar outfits and unfinished classes.

Last Edit : Jan 19, 2023, 16:40 (UTC)
# 8

There is so much to say about the sea... probably the content getting less attention since sailboats.
if you want to have some fun ;) check this
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=25586

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Last Edit : Jan 20, 2023, 11:19 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jan 19, 2023, 16:40 (UTC), Written by Fluffy

There is so much to say about the sea... probably the content getting less attention since sailboats.
if you want to have some fun ;) check this
https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=25586

The sea suggestions are nice, but with the pace sea content gets updated in BDO... I dunno, I hope scientists will discover the elixir of immortality in time for the easiest proposals there to be implemented. I was literally aiming for the tiniest QoL buff. Make the boats smaller and less like an empty warehouse. Nothing else.

Also, off-topic, related to your link. You'll never have your pirate island with quests and residences, as PA doesn't want to encourage that type of pvp (it's probably why Muiquun's stuck in a distant past already).

Last Edit : Jan 20, 2023, 12:10 (UTC)
# 10

Yes, i know about the pirate stuff :D this suggestions are basicly a copy/paste from January 2020. We started them in guild after The Great Expedition update (end 2019).

Regarding the ships, i still don't understand why carracks are not looking like the margorai bartering point where one has stuff on it and looks less empty than what we have.

And you're 1000% right. Simple little QoL changes would make people change their mind about PA and their incompetence or uselessness. But sadly, they are proving me right since all those years. Not a single time did i manage to have a real conversation with anyone that matters. Chatted with CM's, GM's, and Support people, but non wanted to really talk and see the problems as they have no power to fix it. They forward... and can not even know what happened or will happen. Sad puppets :(
The worst is when you report gamebreaking abuses, but as they can't fix it, nothin is done, and it becomes common practice for those who can/know.

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