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OPENING DEBATE ON EVASION AND DR
Jan 21, 2023, 08:55 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 08:55 (UTC)
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I want to open a rather objective debate. I hope you will comment on coherent things. Although I am 100% sure that they have known about this problem for a long time.
There is something that has bothered me for a while now. it is due to the dirty practices of Pearl Abys to promote their new classes and the classes that generate the most money.

MUSA , Lahn , Maegus , Corsair , Hashashin , Sage , Kuno , Ninja , (STRIKER AND MISTYC) 
What do these classes have in common? Yes. They are all evasion coincidence? IDK

I am a Drakania Succ and I will not go into detail about the succ since that would be another topic. But this really horrible for PVP 1v1 and massive, those who are not Drakania Succ will not understand what I am talking about. But this issue is about Pearl Abys not respecting the roles in this game. I have seen that the murderous classes play the role of tank better than the characters themselves, who are called Tank. I am Drakania and Main Valk. I have 640 DR full c20 with 420 dp. It cannot be possible for me to be erased from a single skill or maximum 2. The Ranger I eliminate 2 skill. The maegus not to mention. Muses of 3 skill. you know why? simply because Pearl Abys has been concerned about giving away a lot of Ap in this game harming DR users. every AP point they give away is a counter for DR. Every perfume, elixir, food buff etc is a counter for dr. how can you reduce all the damage that currently exists in this game? there is a huge difference between EVA and REDUCE. 

The dr I dare say that even this cap to 600 of dr. because after you pass the 600 you no longer notice any difference. So it is impossible for a class that is supposed to be made to withstand blows to be the class that least holds up in this game. But comes a muse DP meme with Full Evasion 1400 + with Crystal Full Damage Human and does much more than a supposed Drakania or Valk full dr full tank. Really, the injustice in this game is increasingly blatant. it's basically like making fun of the effort that DR users have to make in order to have a team higher than 700 gs. So that a muse or maegu or evasion user with just over 277 comes and kills you without any difficulty. and I know what they said. With 277 it is impossible. well, yes, if possible my estimate. With home buff and elixir you can kill a full DR user of 420+ dp and 620 DR. Not to mention, DR's build is far more expensive than Evasion's. We need 3 offhand. we need PEN jewelry of accuracy. Pano PEN jewelry to compensate for the loss of AP with the narc. 


USER DR:
Lunar PEN vs eva --> vs dr Laytem Pen
Turos PEN vs eva --> vs dr Valtarra Pen
Ring of crescent PEN X2 vs eva --> vs dr class Ronaros Pen x2
Narc PEN x2
3 Offhand kutum c15  , nouver c15 , Ladothan PEN c20
Gloves and Boots c20 

this is what a DR user needs to be able to make a decent PVP. For every circumstance there is a jewelry store and that name there is what I have

What does an EVA user need?

USER EVA:
Distortion TET x2
Sicil PEN 
Centauro PEN depending on who you face -->  Turos TET
Ring of crescent X2 
Gloves c9
Boots C9
Kutum

It's all an Evasion user needs to be able to counter the DR user written above 

I didn't write this post with personal opinions. For that I tested with various equipment that I have. I don't ask for Nerf to be given to evasion because that's never going to happen. But if at least respect the efforts of DR users and give a buff or take away the DR cap we have , It's horrible to walk into an RBF and not be able to do anything because the only classes you'll see are Musa, Maegus, Ninjas, Lahn, Striker and Mytyc. I basically don't enjoy RRP like I used to. It's more frustrating than fun. 
I really hope that this is read by a team of Pearl Abys and they start thinking a little bit like thinking human beings that they are and see that what they do to the DR is an injustice. They say that with the DR gloves they're going to take out, they're going to fix this. But that's a lie. Even if you have 640 DR you are not going to solve the abysmal amount of damage that you yourselves gave to people.  I know that evasion users will never admit this and lie to themselves saying that evasion is not broken. It's just that they're pro player. but there is no merit in walking in the middle of the battle trusting your EVA and applying grab fruit.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 09:12 (UTC)
# 2
On: Jan 21, 2023, 08:55 (UTC), Written by Drakanoid

I want to open a rather objective debate. I hope you will comment on coherent things. Although I am 100% sure that they have known about this problem for a long time.
There is something that has bothered me for a while now. it is due to the dirty practices of Pearl Abys to promote their new classes and the classes that generate the most money.

MUSA , Lahn , Maegus , Corsair , Hashashin , Sage , Kuno , Ninja , (STRIKER AND MISTYC) 
What do these classes have in common? Yes. They are all evasion coincidence? IDK

I am a Drakania Succ and I will not go into detail about the succ since that would be another topic. But this really horrible for PVP 1v1 and massive, those who are not Drakania Succ will not understand what I am talking about. But this issue is about Pearl Abys not respecting the roles in this game. I have seen that the murderous classes play the role of tank better than the characters themselves, who are called Tank. I am Drakania and Main Valk. I have 640 DR full c20 with 420 dp. It cannot be possible for me to be erased from a single skill or maximum 2. The Ranger I eliminate 2 skill. The maegus not to mention. Muses of 3 skill. you know why? simply because Pearl Abys has been concerned about giving away a lot of Ap in this game harming DR users. every AP point they give away is a counter for DR. Every perfume, elixir, food buff etc is a counter for dr. how can you reduce all the damage that currently exists in this game? there is a huge difference between EVA and REDUCE. 

The dr I dare say that even this cap to 600 of dr. because after you pass the 600 you no longer notice any difference. So it is impossible for a class that is supposed to be made to withstand blows to be the class that least holds up in this game. But comes a muse DP meme with Full Evasion 1400 + with Crystal Full Damage Human and does much more than a supposed Drakania or Valk full dr full tank. Really, the injustice in this game is increasingly blatant. it's basically like making fun of the effort that DR users have to make in order to have a team higher than 700 gs. So that a muse or maegu or evasion user with just over 277 comes and kills you without any difficulty. and I know what they said. With 277 it is impossible. well, yes, if possible my estimate. With home buff and elixir you can kill a full DR user of 420+ dp and 620 DR. Not to mention, DR's build is far more expensive than Evasion's. We need 3 offhand. we need PEN jewelry of accuracy. Pano PEN jewelry to compensate for the loss of AP with the narc. 


USER DR:
Lunar PEN vs eva --> vs dr Laytem Pen
Turos PEN vs eva --> vs dr Valtarra Pen
Ring of crescent PEN X2 vs eva --> vs dr class Ronaros Pen x2
Narc PEN x2
3 Offhand kutum c15  , nouver c15 , Ladothan PEN c20
Gloves and Boots c20 

this is what a DR user needs to be able to make a decent PVP. For every circumstance there is a jewelry store and that name there is what I have

What does an EVA user need?

USER EVA:
Distortion TET x2
Sicil PEN 
Centauro PEN depending on who you face -->  Turos TET
Ring of crescent X2 
Gloves c9
Boots C9
Kutum

It's all an Evasion user needs to be able to counter the DR user written above 

I didn't write this post with personal opinions. For that I tested with various equipment that I have. I don't ask for Nerf to be given to evasion because that's never going to happen. But if at least respect the efforts of DR users and give a buff or take away the DR cap we have , It's horrible to walk into an RBF and not be able to do anything because the only classes you'll see are Musa, Maegus, Ninjas, Lahn, Striker and Mytyc. I basically don't enjoy RRP like I used to. It's more frustrating than fun. 
I really hope that this is read by a team of Pearl Abys and they start thinking a little bit like thinking human beings that they are and see that what they do to the DR is an injustice. They say that with the DR gloves they're going to take out, they're going to fix this. But that's a lie. Even if you have 640 DR you are not going to solve the abysmal amount of damage that you yourselves gave to people.  I know that evasion users will never admit this and lie to themselves saying that evasion is not broken. It's just that they're pro player. but there is no merit in walking in the middle of the battle trusting your EVA and applying grab fruit.

That sounds familiar.  Oh yeah I know where I heard it before.

For 20 years NCSoft ignored all the complaints about ridiculous damage in Lineage II and never fixed any of it.

Now for the real question.

Will you still be asking Pearl Abyss to fix this 15 years later or will you learn before then...........ain't happening.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 09:20 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jan 21, 2023, 09:12 (UTC), Written by JackBelling

For 20 years NCSoft ignored all the complaints about ridiculous damage in Lineage II and never fixed any of it.

That's a straigt up lies clearly by someone who never play Linegea2 on official servers, there was whole update where standart PVP 9 vs 9 was lasting like 20+ minutes on none stop fight because how low damage was and how strong healers was.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 09:22 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jan 21, 2023, 09:12 (UTC), Written by JackBelling

That sounds familiar.  Oh yeah I know where I heard it before.

For 20 years NCSoft ignored all the complaints about ridiculous damage in Lineage II and never fixed any of it.

Now for the real question.

Will you still be asking Pearl Abyss to fix this 15 years later or will you learn before then...........ain't happening.

I would expect a $100B company to understand that they themselves are making an irreversible mess. Did you know that hundreds of thousands of users have left Black Desert because of this? Because of that, this company invests millions of dollars in advertising and marketing. to attract new users who in a few months will realize all the disaster that exists and then leave and so the chain is repeated

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 09:36 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jan 21, 2023, 09:20 (UTC), Written by Potato

That's a straigt up lies clearly by someone who never play Linegea2 on official servers, there was whole update where standart PVP 9 vs 9 was lasting like 20+ minutes on none stop fight because how low damage was and how strong healers was.

Do you mean the live servers with people hitting OVER 1 MILLION damage or the live servers with videos of a single P2W player single handedly crushing 40+ players lol.

So all those years I spent playing on Live servers I just imagined that? 

That's the gas lighting you want go with?

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 09:37 (UTC)
# 6

"I LAUGH AT PEOPLE TRYING TO DEFEND THE RANGER. WHEN THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MAN IS TRYING TO EXPOSE.  Do you think it is normal to kill 3 skills to a full DP Shai and Full Evasion with 10k of life? If so then invite me to the game you are playing because I doubt it is Black Desert" 

So this was your comment 4 hours ago about an evasion shai getting killed in 3 skills, now this post to address how dr is weak compared to evasion and specifically in your case of succ drakania vs a meme dp musa. I feel like there's something weird going on, those 4 hours must have been wild.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 09:40 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jan 21, 2023, 09:22 (UTC), Written by Drakanoid

I would expect a $100B company to understand that they themselves are making an irreversible mess. Did you know that hundreds of thousands of users have left Black Desert because of this? Because of that, this company invests millions of dollars in advertising and marketing. to attract new users who in a few months will realize all the disaster that exists and then leave and so the chain is repeated

People DON'T pay for QUALITY they PAY for advantage.

It's been about 5 straight years of failure now.  How many more before you figure out it's not going to change?  There WILL be people asking that same question 6,10,12 even 15 years later if BDO is still around.  The ANSWER will always be the same..... not happening.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 10:07 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jan 21, 2023, 09:37 (UTC), Written by LapoElkarr

"I LAUGH AT PEOPLE TRYING TO DEFEND THE RANGER. WHEN THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MAN IS TRYING TO EXPOSE.  Do you think it is normal to kill 3 skills to a full DP Shai and Full Evasion with 10k of life? If so then invite me to the game you are playing because I doubt it is Black Desert" 

So this was your comment 4 hours ago about an evasion shai getting killed in 3 skills, now this post to address how dr is weak compared to evasion and specifically in your case of succ drakania vs a meme dp musa. I feel like there's something weird going on, those 4 hours must have been wild.

Everyone knows that it is a highly unbalanced class. It is no secret that they left it incredibly broken after this last patch. Just read the note. If he does that to an evasion imagine what he will do to a dr 

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 10:47 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jan 21, 2023, 10:07 (UTC), Written by Drakanoid

Everyone knows that it is a highly unbalanced class. It is no secret that they left it incredibly broken after this last patch. Just read the note. If he does that to an evasion imagine what he will do to a dr 

Your best option is to wait for a new class that recycles Drak and Dark Knight.  That way you can be FOTM again and OP.  Then you can l33t all over everyone for a month or two until the next class release.

Or maybe a 4th subscription that actually corrects all the busted combat formulas.

And a 5th subscription to see all the hidden numbers they don't want to show you ;)

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 11:37 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jan 21, 2023, 10:44 (UTC), Written by JackBelling

Your best option is to wait for a new class that recycles Drak and Dark Knight.  That way you can be FOTM again and OP.  Then you can l33t all over everyone for a month or two until the next class release.

Or maybe a 4th subscription that actually corrects all the busted combat formulas.

And a 5th subscription to see all the hidden numbers they don't want to show you ;)

it is absurd how stupid there are maegus in RBF. They basically ruin your combat and RRP experience. There are 20 Maegus per computer spamming Shift+F. They are untouchable and have a high chance of killing you.
I just don't like to play new classes for the same reason. I have 0 respect for people who do redevelopment just because it is broken by its release

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