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26 classes in game but only 6 default character slots???
Jan 21, 2023, 16:31 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 16:31 (UTC)
# 1

eh? 6 default char slots but 26 classes, PA prease atleast loyalty buy should be discounted when new classes drop. even SEA server has +1 slot as playtime reward. 

people used to be able to buy slots for 1 lp when new classes dropped so not really fair for newer players. there is catchup mechanics in game for gear but none for characters qq  

atleast do an event for 1-2 slots maybe for Valentine? (this should be yearly if new classes keeps being added) <3 

thank you. 

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 16:41 (UTC)
# 2

This is a F2P game. That's where you pay the price.

Also 6 is more than what one needs already. Noone plays with 6 characters seriously, and if you want to collect them for whathever reasons then pay it's price.

Heck they actually gives you more for free than what other games do....

Also btw I have 20characters and all from layality so idk what's your problem even? it's perfectly fine even as F2P.

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Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 17:14 (UTC)
# 3

Can't agree. BDO doesn't have a subscription model. It needs ways to make money, and this is one of them. Be glad it didn't come in form of ridiculous RNG (like a certain game), or we would be doomed. 300 pearls per slot (they're always discounted to 50% after a class release) is very cheap IMO.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 17:21 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jan 21, 2023, 16:37 (UTC), Written by CatDK

This is a F2P game. That's where you pay the price.

Also 6 is more than what one needs already. Noone plays with 6 characters seriously, and if you want to collect them for whathever reasons then pay it's price.

Heck they actually gives you more for free than what other games do....

Also btw I have 20characters and all from layality so idk what's your problem even? it's perfectly fine even as F2P.

I paid for the game. It's currently 10 Euro in EU. Don't remember what I paid. The game isn't free. Also playing wo certain perks is almost impossible if you want to be competetive (ask high-end pvpers). Yes you can enjoy it as a casual. 

Pretty pointless to compare it to other games since there are those that give a lot more and those that give a lot less.

Exactly you have 20 chars either from getting the lp discount or playing a long time. Newer players doesn't. Even more suprising that you don't understand the importance/benefits of multiple chars.

Already plenty of things that is monetized within the game, people being able to make more chars will make them more commited to the game = more money. So even from a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to have this ratio. At the end of the day your gatekeeping content with money which is the worst part of monetization.

I can spend hundreds of Euro on games I enjoy. I spend money when I respect a developer not because I'm forced to as a means to get access to gated content. Some people don't have that option they should still get a fair chance.

 

 

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 17:36 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jan 21, 2023, 17:14 (UTC), Written by Equalness

Can't agree. BDO doesn't have a subscription model. It needs ways to make money, and this is one of them. Be glad it didn't come in form of ridiculous RNG (like a certain game), or we would be doomed. 300 pearls per slot (they're always discounted to 50% after a class release) is very cheap IMO.

I bought the game? Many people have paid for the game. Plenty of games doesn't have subscription. You do realize that giving people more characters will make them more commited to the game right? Which in turn gives more revenue. Yep good thing we don't have ridiculous RNG in BDO like enhancement. Just cause you think something is cheap doesn't make it cheap for everyone.

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 17:48 (UTC)
# 6

I love when some random guys come and give marketing lessons to professional companies... 

Jokes aside, 6 is already OK for most players. Moreover, you can't expect a new player to get as much benefit in a short time than a veteran in the long run. 

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 17:59 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jan 21, 2023, 17:21 (UTC), Written by ztormguards

I paid for the game. It's currently 10 Euro in EU. Don't remember what I paid. The game isn't free. Also playing wo certain perks is almost impossible if you want to be competetive (ask high-end pvpers). Yes you can enjoy it as a casual. 

Pretty pointless to compare it to other games since there are those that give a lot more and those that give a lot less.

Exactly you have 20 chars either from getting the lp discount or playing a long time. Newer players doesn't. Even more suprising that you don't understand the importance/benefits of multiple chars.

Already plenty of things that is monetized within the game, people being able to make more chars will make them more commited to the game = more money. So even from a business standpoint it doesn't make sense to have this ratio. At the end of the day your gatekeeping content with money which is the worst part of monetization.

I can spend hundreds of Euro on games I enjoy. I spend money when I respect a developer not because I'm forced to as a means to get access to gated content. Some people don't have that option they should still get a fair chance.

 

 

oh no u paid a whooping 10 eur for a videogame, how generous! Why aren't you asking for PEN fallen good right away, clearly you singlehandedly fund the whole game?

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Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 18:52 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jan 21, 2023, 17:48 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

I love when some random guys come and give marketing lessons to professional companies... 

Jokes aside, 6 is already OK for most players. Moreover, you can't expect a new player to get as much benefit in a short time than a veteran in the long run. 

I have studied marketing at universty and worked with pr depts on huge global companies. This is just simple human pshycology though. Don't need uni degree to understand this. Just look it up yourself if you don't understand how it works.

Plenty of people I talked too complained they didn't have enough char slots. I don't expect new players to have same benefits but veterans could buy slots for 1 loyalty point, our price is 10.000 lp thats a price increase of 999900%! (10000-1)/1*100 = (9999/1)*100 = 9999.0*100 = 999900    

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 19:28 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jan 21, 2023, 18:52 (UTC), Written by ztormguards

I have studied marketing at universty and worked with pr depts on huge global companies. This is just simple human pshycology though. Don't need uni degree to understand this. Just look it up yourself if you don't understand how it works.

Plenty of people I talked too complained they didn't have enough char slots. I don't expect new players to have same benefits but veterans could buy slots for 1 loyalty point, our price is 10.000 lp thats a price increase of 999900%! (10000-1)/1*100 = (9999/1)*100 = 9999.0*100 = 999900    

we also have event they gift you with loyalty point

like other said for people who regulary log into black desert since few years the system is fine, for new player we are sorry, but you must made choice wait 50 days and log every day in black desert to get 10000 loyalty or spend 300 pearls

so you really need  your 26 characters now ? you cant enjoy your 6 characters while 50 days before to create a new one ?

Last Edit : Jan 21, 2023, 19:37 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jan 21, 2023, 17:59 (UTC), Written by CatDK

oh no u paid a whooping 10 eur for a videogame, how generous! Why aren't you asking for PEN fallen good right away, clearly you singlehandedly fund the whole game?

as I said I don't remember how much I paid and it's also beside the point. you said: "This is a F2P game" which is not true since I and many others paid for the game. sounds like you didn't pay for the game so you probably shouldn't judge others generosity.

I am asking for 1-2 more char slots or price adjustments, how is that even remotely similar to asking for a PEN fallen god? which I don't even want. 

I'm managing big clans aswell as different gaming communities with hundreds of people. My perception of BDO might influence these people. A postive perception means I am more likely to recommend BDO to this target audience. And now I'm giving my feedback how to give me a positive perception. You can lookup the value of positive CSAT or NPS, I'm confident it's above 10 euro value. 

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