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Did they ever add PVE servers?
Jan 22, 2023, 08:27 (UTC)
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# 92
On: Jan 26, 2023, 08:31 (UTC), Written by Harth

I'm a PvEer. And I don't want PvE servers. Why? because we have them and they offer a horrible experience. Griefing is the only way to play the game there, if you actually have a reason to stick to a spot (say, a quest or a treasure item). The thing I cheer for the most is the day when early grad becomes available.

While it's true that most non-season servers aren't as packed, the concept of PvE-only servers shows its flaws pretty well on the Season channels. If we flirt with the idea that, at some point, PA might hit jackpot with a good content drop that will bring a lot more players to the game (btw, PA, f**king up the graphics and delivering half-finished zones and broken classes are not the ingredients for a good content drop), then what you have on season channels will become the norm everywhere. 

Also, the griefing is caused, I'd say, by a absurd imbalance of the loot pools, not just by monsters density. Why are 550 gs zones more rewarding than 650 ones? So that griefing and, subsequently the attempts to karmabomb can happen? Ugh! I think we're working too hard on solving the wrong problems, on multiple threads.

Finaly a PvE-er to see a reason. I've been saying the same long time ago. But to read it from a PvE player's perspective is new to me. Respect.

On: Jan 26, 2023, 07:22 (UTC), Written by Deyric

1) I'm curious why PvPers even care if PvEers have their own servers (most ideas on this include strict server switching). 
2) If you are hardcore PvPers you should want to face other PvPers.  Not those who have no interest in it.  

1) Because asking about a perma pve servers is already out of the question. I'll also post a link from another thread and show why:

[Feedback] PVP disabled server | Black Desert NA/EU/OC (playblackdesert.com)

2) Well... There is a problem. How does one distinguish a PvE player from a PvP player on sight?

Last Edit : Jan 26, 2023, 11:17 (UTC)
# 93
On: Jan 26, 2023, 04:53 (UTC), Written by JackBelling

You are an excellent demonstration to Pearl Abyss and the community of why it's a bad idea to try to force everyone into a hostile PVP environement.  Pearl Abyss already KNOWS they can't trust their payer base with basic functionality like trading.  To think their payer base could self monitor themselves and respect each other in a PVP conflict enouraging environement is just absurd.

Well, still, they designed BDO like this, proposed it to players, and it found its audience.

Do we really need better example to show that, in the myriad of MMORPGS we can see, BDO found a place, even with a "hostile pvp environnement"?

I mean, FOR SURE, one day BDO will be outdated and die. Will it erase the many years when players were having fun with it? No. 

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2023, 09:23 (UTC)
# 94
On: Jan 26, 2023, 07:48 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

. BDO is not made for PvE only servers. Look what happens on season PvE servers. Griefing non stop. Yes Griefing is not PvP, but mostly PvE. Many players will just kill your mobs becasue they know you cant do nothing.

"If you are hardcore PvPers any problems that crop up on PvE servers shouldn't be your concern as they won't affect you since you won't be on them. 

And your issue issue is so miniscule in occurance you are the only one spreading propaganda here. 

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2023, 10:05 (UTC)
# 95
On: Jan 27, 2023, 09:23 (UTC), Written by Deyric

"If you are hardcore PvPers any problems that crop up on PvE servers shouldn't be your concern as they won't affect you since you won't be on them. 

And your issue issue is so miniscule in occurance you are the only one spreading propaganda here. 

Thats short sighting and missing the point Im making. Just nitpicking and ignoring the important points.
Im before all BDO player, I care about BDO.

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2023, 10:46 (UTC)
# 96
On: Jan 27, 2023, 09:23 (UTC), Written by Deyric

"If you are hardcore PvPers any problems that crop up on PvE servers shouldn't be your concern as they won't affect you since you won't be on them. 

Who is talking about hardcore PvPers? Most players that flag up from time to time are by no means hardcore PvPers. They're just your average PvX players, the type of players this game is built for.
Those who want pure PvE servers are those that do not understand that the game is not built for them. If you want a farming simulator then chose one of the plenty available ones.

It's like buying Battlefield and then complaining that it's not a top down dungeon crawler. You should pick games that fit your preferences and not pick games that go against them and then try to change their core gameplay into something different.

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Last Edit : Jan 27, 2023, 17:45 (UTC)
# 97
On: Jan 27, 2023, 10:05 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Thats short sighting and missing the point Im making. Just nitpicking and ignoring the important points.
Im before all BDO player, I care about BDO.

HAHAHHAHa GOOD one.  Nice!!!

You had another typo though.  You typed "missing the point Im making", which should have been "missed the narrative Im pushing".

There is a difference ;)

Even worse he already addressed your "so called point" which is really just propaganda.

"And your issue issue is so miniscule in occurance you are the only one spreading propaganda here."

You WANT to paint a picture that normal servers are just intollerable because of constant Karma Bombing.  Had you actually read my Amazing Karma Bomb post you might have realize it explains all the reasons that IS NOT THE CASE ;)

Last Edit : Jan 27, 2023, 23:17 (UTC)
# 98
On: Jan 27, 2023, 17:41 (UTC), Written by JackBelling

HAHAHHAHa GOOD one.  Nice!!!

You had another typo though.  You typed "missing the point Im making", which should have been "missed the narrative Im pushing".

There is a difference ;)

Even worse he already addressed your "so called point" which is really just propaganda.

"And your issue issue is so miniscule in occurance you are the only one spreading propaganda here."

You WANT to paint a picture that normal servers are just intollerable because of constant Karma Bombing.  Had you actually read my Amazing Karma Bomb post you might have realize it explains all the reasons that IS NOT THE CASE ;)

Here is a story to check for typos:
Hello Im JackFailling. Im a liitle troll that achieved nothing but bans. But they are multiple. And when I dont have any arguments I try to find grama mistakes in people. Because I have nothing else to say.
You made this story Jack. The rest is in my other post to you. See you in monday.

Last Edit : Jan 28, 2023, 02:47 (UTC)
# 99
On: Jan 24, 2023, 22:07 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Well, the idea that many players may jump on BDO if there were a pure pve setting have been suggested several times by players on these forums. 

But the question is : how many players would they lose in the process?

Things are more complicated than a simple "new setting = more players". 

You have to think about this from a business perspective. 

The new PVE players are a blank slate. They will need all the inventory, weight, fairy, pets, and more. The opportunity cost will eventually make this a no brainer.

Last Edit : Jan 28, 2023, 04:20 (UTC)
# 100
On: Jan 26, 2023, 11:17 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Well, still, they designed BDO like this, proposed it to players, and it found its audience.

Do we really need better example to show that, in the myriad of MMORPGS we can see, BDO found a place, even with a "hostile pvp environnement"?

I mean, FOR SURE, one day BDO will be outdated and die. Will it erase the many years when players were having fun with it? No. 

The design and vision has been DESTROYED.  The best part is everyone can see this is in a little area of the game called THE DESERT.  You know BLACK DESERT ONLINE.  Where the desert was designed for Perma Reds.  The mechanics where designed to HOUSE players in THE DESERT.  The combat rules where changed for THE DESERT.  There was a quest requiring you to PK in THE DESERT.

So lets see what happened to that VISION of BLACK DESERT:

Today the DESERT is out dated content that has been abandoned.  ALL the new content and end game is AWAY from the mechanics of the DESERT.  AWAY from that orginal VISION of a PK environment.

PK is not ONLY being removed and detered, but specifically stated as NOT WANTED by Pearl Abyss.

So, goodbye to your DREAMS of a PK game.  Time for you to move along.  The VISION IS DEAD.

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