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#Wizard #Witch #Shai
Wizard/Witch - The 3 support buffs - Duration/timers improvements
Feb 25, 2023, 13:47 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Mar 2, 2023, 19:36 (UTC)
# 11
On: Mar 2, 2023, 17:35 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Shai has a reason her buffs last so long, shais do ALOT less damage than a caster(one meteor does the same damage as all just about all of shais kit combined) , atm shes the closest we have to a support class, casters also are the main class for siege and any mass pvp content, because of their buff potential being broken in these scenes , the dont need buffing in this area at all. Its not hate either . People know what casters can do. They are known even when they were broken to want more buffs (2017 era with PA being totally broken as a skill)


It's crazy to even suggest, Mae Prime Blooming passive, ignore 5% All Resistance....Succ Wiz 100% up time on 15% All Resistance...

Ninja Shining Blade Passive + Prime Shadow Blade = 13% Attack Speed on a melee class vs proposed 100% up time of 20% casting speed on a Ranged class loaded with utility
Sage 10% Casting Speed Passive has to non-stop constantly monitor and cast basic attacks or other skills for an extra 10% speed that decreases if no skills are used off cd...and no other speed in kit, on one of the slowest classes in game....but Wiz should get free 20% with 10 min up time and 30 sec cd LMFAO
....as mentioned early, most Wizards have zero concept of balance.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2023, 20:37 (UTC)
# 12
On: Mar 2, 2023, 19:29 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz

Several have ruined my day, when instead of trying to master their class, they find it more reasonable to cry about how bad a state their class is in, instead of actually learning it and increasing skill. Unprotected Heal lmfao....when most classes have no heal at all, just shitty sustain on hit...actually complaining about having standalone cast ones? LOL PA and a fuck ton of other utility? And it's still not enough....ok

It's rather a simple reveal, nothing complicated to see at all. You're asking for temporary buffs, in the same vein as PA, to support allies for pushes. Not to keep up full time. The very fact you fail to grasp this just gives more ammo to my previous statement....learn the kit. No class is supposed to get a free 20% cast speed up 100% of the time w/o any sacrifice and provide this to all players. No class has a flat 15% All Resistance to keep up full time. Do you not remember the Passive Nerfs? When classes approaching 15% and 20% cast speed were gutted? Why in the hell would Wizard, a support class, get full up time buffs over classes that actually rely on them in the frey of combat.

Following your logic, it's a hassel for succ sages to have to spam skills non-stop to reduce Ebuff's Reset CD to 3 min AND to keep a 10% casting speed buff up...yeah, have to monitor it every few seconds instead of every 30 seconds unlike Wiz. So, according to you, since Succ Sage relys on this and constantly watching the CD bar, he should also have Ebuff up full time then right? Instead of 30 Sec of 20% extra crit damage every 3min, he should have it for 10 min with a 30 sec cd no? That's fair since he has no Utility Skills, no heal, no PA, No Speed Spell, No Mana Regen, not even a crit chance buff. He does get a grapple resistance in one of the slowest SA movement skills in game for 2 seconds...guess that should be 100% up time then no? It's odd you can't grasp that they're not designed to be 100% up time, the skills are LITERALLY designed to be temporary for pushes...and for support...not to give support full on passives better then the actually classes that have to rely on them and get nothing else LMFAO.

So end of the day, you willing to lose passives, to gain these proposed extra skill ones that are better then almost every other classes standalone ones?

u obviously show how little you understand our specs mechanics  if u think we are asking fo mana shield duration buff because of resitance buff portion(especially after they changes resistance caps and gave people ignore specific resistance gems and crytsal changes). but ok, since you pointed it out. leave resistance portion of the buff same as it is, prolongue the other part. deal?


Last Edit : Mar 2, 2023, 20:40 (UTC)
# 13
On: Mar 2, 2023, 19:36 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz


It's crazy to even suggest, Mae Prime Blooming passive, ignore 5% All Resistance....Succ Wiz 100% up time on 15% All Resistance...

Ninja Shining Blade Passive + Prime Shadow Blade = 13% Attack Speed on a melee class vs proposed 100% up time of 20% casting speed on a Ranged class loaded with utility
Sage 10% Casting Speed Passive has to non-stop constantly monitor and cast basic attacks or other skills for an extra 10% speed that decreases if no skills are used off cd...and no other speed in kit, on one of the slowest classes in game....but Wiz should get free 20% with 10 min up time and 30 sec cd LMFAO
....as mentioned early, most Wizards have zero concept of balance.

what u dont get is that awk spec with speed spell is still few times slower than other classes without it. and unlike other classes which profit from our buff, we are bascuially at "zero" level WITH it.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2023, 20:41 (UTC)
# 14
On: Mar 2, 2023, 19:36 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz


It's crazy to even suggest, Mae Prime Blooming passive, ignore 5% All Resistance....Succ Wiz 100% up time on 15% All Resistance...

Ninja Shining Blade Passive + Prime Shadow Blade = 13% Attack Speed on a melee class vs proposed 100% up time of 20% casting speed on a Ranged class loaded with utility
Sage 10% Casting Speed Passive has to non-stop constantly monitor and cast basic attacks or other skills for an extra 10% speed that decreases if no skills are used off cd...and no other speed in kit, on one of the slowest classes in game....but Wiz should get free 20% with 10 min up time and 30 sec cd LMFAO
....as mentioned early, most Wizards have zero concept of balance.

and sages do, obviously. they got what they wanted with buffs. grats to you. being back to cancer level.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2023, 22:53 (UTC)
# 15

Truly, us Witcheys with two players in the top 100, EU NA, are the terror of AoS...

Surely they were both awakening to.

:)

100% uptime on mana shield wouldn't make it any better than it is rn; we need the ability to toggle it on and off at will, as well as a larger overall MP pool, to make the skill perform it's old role of allowing us to properly function in melee without any means of damage mitigation.

Every other class you've listed so far has a means of direct or indirect damage mitigation, but us staffs are stuck with face tanking everything for the coming 7s.

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2023, 06:59 (UTC)
# 16
On: Mar 2, 2023, 19:29 (UTC), Written by Jenisiz

Several have ruined my day, when instead of trying to master their class, they find it more reasonable to cry about how bad a state their class is in, instead of actually learning it and increasing skill. Unprotected Heal lmfao....when most classes have no heal at all, just shitty sustain on hit...actually complaining about having standalone cast ones? LOL PA and a fuck ton of other utility? And it's still not enough....ok

Bro whats wrong with you? Did you get farmed from an Awa caster in AoS xD. 

There are alot of match-ups we just auto lose like: Succ Sage, Zerker, Sorc, Ninja, Succ Nova, Musa, Meawha, DK, Striker, Mystik, Succ Hash, Awa Guardian. (Edit: Forgot Valkyrie, and now tamer with the Glab buffs). I think i got most of 'em (I bet your class doesn´t have this many hard counters xD)

If you are other opinion would like to see you to go to Awa Witch and prove otherwise. 

Yes the recent changes really helped us in AoS, but we are still as easy to be outplayed as before. It´s just that alot of people are too dump to counter play an Awa Caster. Give me a break xD. Not my problem you can´t use your 1 braincell you have and frigure it out.

Literally 95% just go up infornt of you and try to trade with protected CC, damage forgetting that we are almost 100% protected by FG and few SA. They rarely use their mobility to out maneuver us. (Won two 1v3 in AoS last week xD)

We complain about our support abityties since Casters get a gutter kit to make them not too op, but then other classes get support skills without trade-off to their kit (let´s keep this with the context of AoS; yes in large scale it´s too good and and casters trade nerfs to heals and pa with a better kit). 

Get over it

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2023, 07:05 (UTC)
# 17
On: Feb 25, 2023, 13:47 (UTC), Written by Ryukul

Hi,

Could the Wizard/Witch get some improvements on the duration of the 3 support buffs they got ?

Right now the Wizard/Witch has:

1. Spellbound Heart V - Cooldown 30 sec / Duration 10 min

2. Speed Spell III - Cooldown 50 sec / Duration 30 sec

3. Magical Shield IV - Cooldown 1m / Duration 30 sec

Note: this is ridiculous how cooldown is bigger than duration of skills, I'm playing wizz since I play this game and I'm using the buffs every time I have the chance to use them. Imagine using them like that under the current conditions... even Shai got improvements from 30 sec duration for players to 1 min.

Proposal would be:

1. Spellbound Heart V - Cooldown 30 sec / Duration 30 min

2. Speed Spell III - Cooldown 30 sec / Duration 10 min

3. Magical Shield IV - Cooldown 30 sec / Duration 10 min

Note: even if the proposed timers are too big (I would imagine dev's would think off...); at least even the timers to be like the shai's are, make them at least 1 min duration PLEASE!

The honest feeling some times for buffs with Wizard/Witch/Shai are like you spend more time buffing and paying attention on it then fighting ...

Thx, and keep the good job going!

I agree. Buff duration needs to be extended but for Casters only. 

10min is defently too long but if they would match the Cooldown it would be a great help (and keep us stay in Awakening Stance).

I would also to suggest to make Spell bound heart persist through death and give Healing Lighthouse SA.

Last Edit : Mar 3, 2023, 14:10 (UTC)
# 18
On: Mar 3, 2023, 07:02 (UTC), Written by SeedofYggdrasil

and give Healing Lighthouse SA.

maybe just first tick. 

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