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Is all PVE content just a brainless facesmash?
Mar 25, 2021, 18:03 (UTC)
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# 71
Écrit le : 31 mars 2021, 03:16 (UTC), par : Vulpin

Can't every have a single discussion on these forums can we. Most anti discussion pro toxicity forums I've ever seen and I've seen forums were people are calling each other Nazi and wish other's families died in concentration camps. But in those forums there this thing called a forum moderator that usally stop suck idicoy from countinuing to be spammed to bad we can't have that here but hey sense we don't let just be as toxic as we possible can and never have a single discussion.

We would be discussing if you weren't like this:

 

Now feel free to address my points instead of crying and playing the victim.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 03:19 (UTC)
# 72
On: Mar 30, 2021, 04:49 (UTC), Written by heavyElement

When I first played I had that mindset that MMOs needed raids and instanced end game.

 

You've experienced 0.0001% of the game.

 

Now when I play there is actually too much to do with the hours I have. Grinding mobs is just one part of the game, and that is actually fun once you start progressing and have options. They are also adding in a lot more group grind areas.

 

Some people just live on the sea, some just lifeskills, some combine both, some players I know only horse train. If you dip your hands into everything you'll always have something to do whether it's new energy goals, worker empires the list goes on.

 

This is "casual" open world, everything is linked and connected in your progress which makes it even more special.

 

Now BDO has spoiled me with non-targetted gameplay, it's combat, constant content updates and many different ways to play the game. It's worth it if you give it a little time.

The issue with many of these list life skills is there all either done through afk or semi afk gameplay. I can easily compare any life skill beside gathering (which let face it gathering not really a life skill it just a different form of mob grinding) with my time playing the mobile game shop titans. I open the game click on things for about a min than minimize it an let it run in the background for 30+ mins before reopening it to do the same thing of clicking around for a min than minimizing the game. It not engaging at all. Is it fun 🤔 well it not terrible but is depressing that PA put such little thought into these elements that it feels like a mobile game an not an MMORPG.

 

Take many other games with a life skilling system an you'll see what I mean. Archeage you have fishing you catch some river fish turn it into chum get on your fishing boat go out into the ocean. Than you chum a fishing spot catch ocean fish with a fun engaging mini-game, load the fish into your boat as you catch them than sail back to land and sell them for money. Or take EVE Online's exploration life skill, you head out to unknown dangerous space scan down some lost relic sites, scout out the side for dangers an potential loot. Than if it seems safe you engage in a very complex puzzle like hacking mini game that both engaging an fun to recover ancient data records or rare ancient loot, item that you can than use to either make into rare items to use your self or sell to another player or simple just sell the raw items it self.

 

BDO life skills lack any form of depth and any form of engaging gameplay. It just cast you fishing rod, set your auto path, or que up some cooking, alchemy, or processing task than minimize the game an ignore it from anywhere between 30mins to 12 hours.

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Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 03:29 (UTC)
# 73
Écrit le : 31 mars 2021, 03:19 (UTC), par : Vulpin

The issue with many of these list life skills is there all either done through afk or semi afk gameplay. I can easily compare any life skill beside gathering (which let face it gathering not really a life skill it just a different form of mob grinding) with my time playing the mobile game shop titans. I open the game click on things for about a min than minimize it an let it run in the background for 30+ mins before reopening it to do the same thing of clicking around for a min than minimizing the game. It not engaging at all. Is it fun 🤔 well it not terrible but is depressing that PA put such little thought into these elements that it feels like a mobile game an not an MMORPG.

 

Take many other games with a life skilling system an you'll see what I mean. Archeage you have fishing you catch some river fish turn it into chum get on your fishing boat go out into the ocean. Than you chum a fishing spot catch ocean fish with a fun engaging mini-game, load the fish into your boat as you catch them than sail back to land and sell them for money. Or take EVE Online's exploration life skill, you head out to unknown dangerous space scan down some lost relic sites, scout out the side for dangers an potential loot. Than if it seems safe you engage in a very complex puzzle like hacking mini game that both engaging an fun to recover ancient data records or rare ancient loot, item that you can than use to either make into rare items to use your self or sell to another player or simple just sell the raw items it self.

 

BDO life skills lack any form of depth and any form of engaging gameplay. It just cast you fishing rod, set your auto path, or que up some cooking, alchemy, or processing task than minimize the game an ignore it from anywhere between 30mins to 12 hours.

This has already been addressed. Will you address the counter points and actually discuss or are you there to impose your own biased opinions.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 03:32 (UTC)
# 74
On: Mar 31, 2021, 03:29 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

 

Go bother someone else lost puppy I can't be bothered to read your spite today.

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# 75
Écrit le : 31 mars 2021, 03:32 (UTC), par : Vulpin

Look at me I dismiss any embarassing opinion and call it discussing.

Feel free to discuss lifeskills however, if you have any actual insight to share about them that is.

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 05:33 (UTC)
# 76
On: Mar 26, 2021, 19:46 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

LOL, you don't even have a ninja let alone a 63, so I doubt you are even 580GS let alone 680 LOL

 

ArchaicTriad was right calling you out, you and Retteo are the two biggest idiots on the forum that have no idea how the game works and straight-up lie about your progression, because half the stuff you two say don't even make sense, even fearless and factorial making more sense than you two, and that says, A LOT

 

my take as to why you two hate the game so much is that you two never leave your mom's basement, with both of you close to 400 posts, I don't even have half the amount compares to you two, and find myself on the forum quite a bit, you two are on the forum more than in-game making progress, what you two need to leave your mom's basement and do something productive instead of being a keyboard warrior, heck, even start streaming is more productive than being a basement dweller.

 

 So this made me laugh really hard. I'm completely new to this game and as a rule I usually come to the forums for updates and info whenever I play something like a lot of people do. I think to myself , these two guys are literally cranking out post after post on multiple topics about how terrible the game is like they are on some kind of crusade to convice people that the game is awful. Maybe they are disgruntled ex employes of PA or something lol. Too funny.

To comment on the topic.  This style of PVE is more about how your character performs rather than how the mobs perform.

 

 

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Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 07:21 (UTC)
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I know some will jump on me for these words, but it doesn't matter.

 

In BDO mob grind, your biggest uncertainty and difficulty will not come from mobs, it will come from other players.

That's precisely what breaks the repetitive side of this grind, what threatens your efficiency and sometimes forces you to go out of your bubble, and also what makes it more interesting and thrilling, challenging.

 

That's also the reason why BDO can't really have complex mob mechanics, as it would open a new kind of griefing (ruining these mechanics).

 

 

That's also what gives some real "Wtf?" moments, yesterday there were 2 guys roaming near me and taking some mobs from time to time. No real harm, I always plan a variable in my rotation.

Then I saw these two guys dueling, then arguing... Basically, they were having a conflict to know which one of them would be ksing me. XD

 

Humans can be boring, but they also know how to be unpredictable and funny. There is the uncertainty. 

Last Edit : Mar 31, 2021, 14:01 (UTC)
# 78
On: Mar 31, 2021, 05:33 (UTC), Written by Noobfury

To comment on the topic.  This style of PVE is more about how your character performs rather than how the mobs perform.

 

 

An some classes like striker perform far better than anyone else by holding down a single button. Thus why there so many people with striker alts.

 

An not saying the game is bad why would I play if I didn't like it? I'm just saying sad facts about the game an why we all know this game could be 100x better. So if you want to white knight PA lazy efforts an scummy business model be my guess, but such actions will only encourage PA to continue to put little to zero effort into improving this game an only make the monetization worse. I mean it the white knights fault for letting class balance fall into the state that it is were one class is the strongest in every form of PVP, while another is the strongest in PVE simply by spam 2 skills. Or why they got away with adding outfit melt an increasing how many pearl shop items a player can sell from 5 to 25, an basically a way to enchance gear solely through swiping your credit card 3 years ago. I mean really PA throws them a pointless server buff that gives everyone 1 AP and 1 DP and the white knights are foaming at the month prasing them for it. Like really the buff may as well not exist it literally does nothing for everyone long-term what there to prase exactly?

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