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Increase Monetary Reward for Red Battle Field (RBF)
Apr 25, 2023, 00:42 (UTC)
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Last Edit : May 12, 2023, 22:18 (UTC)
# 261
On: May 12, 2023, 20:41 (UTC), Written by XxValakxX

I did provide something of substance, which didn't mention you at all. The OP glossed over the point and tried to flex.
Then you felt the need to interject yourself into a conversation that didn't involve you, which I assume is because you need to back up your e-daddy. So like I said, chortle on.. gawk gawk 3000 style..

You are delusional if you think that, you keep repeating yourself, you assume things that are incorrect, your insults are still goofy and make you look funny if anything, your points you tried and failed to make are bad and incorrect it's time to stop and get some help. Take the L and move on.

Last Edit : May 15, 2023, 11:09 (UTC)
# 262

I am not a Choice fan boy..

I have my personal perspective about streamers as well as those in siege guilds.

That being said Choice is 100% correct in his post and I have to give him props on his presentation.

This game is slowly being choked off by PA and there decisions to Cap limit everything.

RBF is one of the few things left other than open world were the gear we will end up spending over 1 trillion silver and years of game play to achieve.

For those that would prefer PVP making RBF profitable gives payers a choice grind mobs in circles all day or make 300-700 mil per hour in RBF.

This graduated scale also forces not just participation but also competition. Things like top fragger for the week or day would be cool yah know bring leaderboards back.

Those of us at or near end game need other avenues to make $$$$ or literally this will be a slow burn over time of players leaving the game.

So Choice has my vote.

Last Edit : May 15, 2023, 11:56 (UTC)
# 263

Idea is great, but they must rework RBF to gear capped content. Otherwise it does not have sense. Income only for 730+ GS players.. its 2-3% of game population what about others ?  PvP should be for everyone not only for old players..

Last Edit : May 15, 2023, 12:31 (UTC)
# 264
On: May 15, 2023, 11:56 (UTC), Written by Equben

Idea is great, but they must rework RBF to gear capped content. Otherwise it does not have sense. Income only for 730+ GS players.. its 2-3% of game population what about others ?  PvP should be for everyone not only for old players..

I completely disagree.

Everything in this game is Gear Capped if you want that goto siege or NW. There is not much left out there for those of us at end game.

This is like everything in games, you want to goto Oluns guess what you need gear, want crypt of resting thoughts or ash forest you need gear.

RBF should be were you see gear progression gives you something to strive for instead of getting to Cap then saying I'm done.

Last Edit : May 15, 2023, 17:52 (UTC)
# 265
On: May 15, 2023, 12:31 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

I completely disagree.

Everything in this game is Gear Capped if you want that goto siege or NW. There is not much left out there for those of us at end game.

This is like everything in games, you want to goto Oluns guess what you need gear, want crypt of resting thoughts or ash forest you need gear.

RBF should be were you see gear progression gives you something to strive for instead of getting to Cap then saying I'm done.

I agree to some extent.

The argument always comes up, that its the same in pve, more gear more money / h and also more freedom on what Spots you can grind.

But i think that the money / h difference between top performer and last places is too high in Choice's suggestion.

Right now the gearscore in RBF mostly ranges from 700 - 740 GS. This is literally nothing outside of PvP, in pve with 700+ GS you make all the money you want.

So the difference of First place making over 3 Times the money, of the 15th and lower place, makes no sense.

And the argument that the Fist place put way more effort into it and deserved the money also lacks a lot of factors, like class, playstyle, defending, lasthitting etc. Being fist place in this ranking, doesn't mean in any way that you actually were the most valuable player for the match.

Last Edit : May 16, 2023, 02:17 (UTC)
# 266
On: May 15, 2023, 17:52 (UTC), Written by EleanorKuro

I agree to some extent.

The argument always comes up, that its the same in pve, more gear more money / h and also more freedom on what Spots you can grind.

But i think that the money / h difference between top performer and last places is too high in Choice's suggestion.

Right now the gearscore in RBF mostly ranges from 700 - 740 GS. This is literally nothing outside of PvP, in pve with 700+ GS you make all the money you want.

So the difference of First place making over 3 Times the money, of the 15th and lower place, makes no sense.

And the argument that the Fist place put way more effort into it and deserved the money also lacks a lot of factors, like class, playstyle, defending, lasthitting etc. Being fist place in this ranking, doesn't mean in any way that you actually were the most valuable player for the match.

There are a lot of factors that can be put into this but  lets look at money 1st .

Not even talking about 1-15 lets look at last place of both winner and loser

winner 97.5 mil

loser 65 mil

now lets assume your playing valencia map were most play the avg time is paced on several factors players in map, nodes held and kills all play a part on how long the match takes most of them are between 10-12 mins long they might say 20 mins but match ends at 3000 that eans you can avg 4-6 matches per hour.. lets use the avg of 5 per hour.

winner 97.5x5= 487.5 mil per hour

loser 65x5= 325mil per hour

obviously your team may not win all so your gonna fall between 325-487 mil per hour and if you check out grind zones on garmoth on a blue scroll that puts you about middle of the road per hour..

lets face it if your a 680-700gs your not grinding hexe (depends on the class) efficiantly, oluns, trolls, gyfin can you grind there? sure but some classes you wont survive long at 380 dp but the point is grinding efficiantly without dying.

So the above with his change would be pretty decent money for the Gs as well as the avg player.

Now lets talk about what i beleive the issue your having is and again this is based on GS, you have 740 gs players that are roof top camping rangers or wizards ... they get a bunch of kills and will make it difficult for mellee classes, you got zerks, musa's that dash out of safe zone and can hit other node before there RBF buffs wear off.. the game is full of meta chasers obviously your gonna have a lot of heat for top place.. but you have to remember RBF is supposed to be about team work and enough people play that want to win you will have people playing competative

Is it fair that a person could make between 1.3- 1.6 per hour again if you look at 740 GS and grind chart at garmoth that is pretty close to equivilant silver per hour based on GS alone now granted not the same player that is 740 gs will be #1 on ever match as will you have a smatering of 700 GS players in the 1-15..

But again both of these are if you do 5 per hour and most will do 3 maybe 4 per hour as well as some players are just lazy getting gear and have no real reason to challange themselves to go beyond 680-700 gs but this will do that.. more gear you get the more skill you have the more money you make.

I think in reality going all out on RBF $$$$ will allow the community to have another outlet to make money and also give the kick in the ass needed to finally start progession

Last Edit : May 16, 2023, 03:59 (UTC)
# 267

I'm no fan of choices anti-donkey agendas, but I see no fault in his proposal. It gets a pass. +1

Last Edit : May 16, 2023, 05:46 (UTC)
# 268

Great idear choice, lets do it now PA!!! if  possible next patch ty  

Last Edit : May 16, 2023, 05:57 (UTC)
# 269

still a bad suggestion noone needs. pvp in this game is dead. and even censoring my post wont change this fact. i made rbf suggestions for years and noone even red them. cringegame with horrible cringe community.

Last Edit : May 16, 2023, 06:45 (UTC)
# 270
On: May 15, 2023, 12:31 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

I completely disagree.

Everything in this game is Gear Capped if you want that goto siege or NW. There is not much left out there for those of us at end game.

This is like everything in games, you want to goto Oluns guess what you need gear, want crypt of resting thoughts or ash forest you need gear.

RBF should be were you see gear progression gives you something to strive for instead of getting to Cap then saying I'm done.

Use my gear: Behg and urugun c10, duo labreska and FG, Tet tungard earrings, pen capotia, tet tidal valtara, pen crescent and oen capotia rings, c11 kzarka, c8 nouver, pen fiery awa, exated vell heart. I have 290/287/393 and tell me RBF is fun. No new players dont have  proper pvp gear because they must grind for months/years.. and firstable they must get gear and be able to grind on end game spots..

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