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[want your input - Shia stuff] If a New skill were added to shai and your options where
Jun 5, 2023, 11:41 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 15:31 (UTC)
# 11
On: Jun 8, 2023, 11:52 (UTC), Written by Adonaj

Stop

Dont set yourself up for a disappointment, PA will not make shai great.

Nah no one actually expects PA to do anything, but it doesnt cost anything to make these kind posts anyway

Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 15:40 (UTC)
# 12

She needs protected disengagement. But we dont need a new skill for it...we already have one. Its the same a draka dash, just 100% unprotected with long starting animation. If they would change it to iframe on start and then SA till end we would be fine. 

Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 15:48 (UTC)
# 13

atm there are no expectation of anything, just asking (not just here) I don’t nothing planned for a long while. But people say PA doesn’t listen. Actual they do (the chain may be problematic but meh).

When it was put forward to them that shai de-buffs where unfairly vulnerable and SA need to be move to the start, as  shai as a passive class and need to cast warnings (weaken,) not attack(stun) in order to warn (de-buff) , PA agreed and the changes where made.

It was explained to them in a way that was clear, reasoned and in line with the philosophy of shai design.

People mistake PA disagreeing with what you want for shai, with PA not listening.

Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 16:22 (UTC)
# 14
On: Jun 8, 2023, 15:47 (UTC), Written by Snoods

atm there are no expectation of anything, just asking (not just here) I don’t nothing planned for a long while. But people say PA doesn’t listen. Actual they do (the chain may be problematic but meh).

When it was put forward to them that shai de-buffs where unfairly vulnerable and SA need to be move to the start, as  shai as a passive class and need to cast warnings (weaken,) not attack(stun) in order to warn (de-buff) , PA agreed and the changes where made.

It was explained to them in a way that was clear, reasoned and in line with the philosophy of shai design.

People mistake PA disagreeing with what you want for shai, with PA not listening.

I do hope you are right then, i especially want to see Shai passives touched on.

Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 17:06 (UTC)
# 15
On: Jun 7, 2023, 18:21 (UTC), Written by Gargulc

PA doesn't care; nothing going to happen; waste of time to bother. Shai is a clown class, to fool around, to be used in marketing but not for real gameplay. Thats what i think.

Strange how people seem to refer to her as a joke/clown class. Incorrect. But one streamer says it and other parrot, how it be, I forgive :)

 

If we look back at the last ball, what J said and what streamer say he said are 2 very different things.

 

Paraphrasing, J saidDon’t worry, shai will not be changed and will retain here uniqueness’

(in green cus that's important, he referred to the concern - streamer did not pick up on this at all, as they have no idea what going on shai side apart from a few things they overhear :P )

 

The streamer reporting on it (and I was watching at the time) only mixes with a very small amount of NA shai, and viewed it as J talking directly to the request of such shai.. e.g. 'you not getting your booofs to pvp.'

 

And a meme war born, incorrect one, but this is the internet.

 

Nah, the answer was inference to something such steamers are not even aware of, outside of their bubble.

 

Now why is this important what J Said and how he said it? Persons like myself voice concern that PA has given up on shai unique path and would make here a standard pvp class, like she is on mobile.

 

Was not just me worried about this issue, and we don’t here is voiced so much NA/EU side as people want more damage, more protection more ability to pvp in the west. I have always been against this even as a PvP shai (there are caveats relating to engine failings, explained in videos. e.g there are areas where BDO engine cannot support PA design philosophy for shai, no matter how much J wants it! , and PA need to look into it, change their position a little, not going over it here)

 

So this myth that she is a joke class is a misunderstanding by the ill informed and memeing streamers :P

 

Probably PA most resource intense class of all of them as they have plans, and that caused an issue for som,e as PA aren’t gonna budge one little bit.

 

She is a devastating support  and disruption class for sure, I have proven and recorded this both NA and EU said, in many different build.

 ---

also explain shai path, how to form fedback and work within PA's scopes in a 1h video (only part of its is about feeback, the rest is a review and not fair to post it on thses forums :P reasons). some have watches it and taken it onboard.

Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 17:26 (UTC)
# 16
On: Jun 8, 2023, 15:29 (UTC), Written by GreenShadow

What u talking about, she is a good grinder lol

She is not when it comes to grind at 1-hit spots.

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Nyaora
Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 17:30 (UTC)
# 17
On: Jun 8, 2023, 16:48 (UTC), Written by Snoods

Strange how people seem to refer to her as a joke/clown class. Incorrect. But one streamer says it and other parrot, how it be, I forgive :)

 

If we look back at the last ball, what J said and what streamer say he said are 2 very different things.

 

Paraphrasing, J saidDon’t worry, shai will not be changed and will retain here uniqueness’

(in green cus that's important, he referred to the concern - streamer did not pick up on this at all, as they have no idea what going on shai side apart from a few things they overhear :P )

 

The streamer reporting on it (and I was watching at the time) only mixes with a very small amount of NA shai, and viewed it as J talking directly to the request of such shai.. e.g. 'you not getting your booofs to pvp.'

 

And a meme war born, incorrect one, but this is the internet.

 

Nah, the answer was inference to something such steamers are not even aware of, outside of their bubble.

 

Now why is this important what J Said and how he said it? Persons like myself voice concern that PA has given up on shai unique path and would make here a standard pvp class, like she is on mobile.

 

Was not just me worried about this issue, and we don’t here is voiced so much NA/EU side as people want more damage, more protection more ability to pvp in the west. I have always been against this even as a PvP shai (there are caveats relating to engine failings, explained in videos. e.g there are areas where BDO engine cannot support PA design philosophy for shai, no matter how much J wants it! , and PA need to look into it, change their position a little, not going over it here)

 

So this myth that she is a joke class is a misunderstanding by the ill informed and memeing streamers :P

 

Probably PA most resource intense class of all of them as they have plans, and that caused an issue for som,e as PA aren’t gonna budge one little bit.

 

She is a devastating support  and disruption class for sure, I have proven and recorded this both NA and EU said, in many different build.

 ---

also explain shai path, how to form fedback and work within PA's scopes in a 1h video (only part of its is about feeback, the rest is a review and not fair to post it on thses forums :P reasons). some have watches it and taken it onboard.

I dont know and dont care what some streamers say. Am shai main and still think she is just clown class. If i see some usefull changes instead dances, music, nerfs,... then maybe i will change my opinion. For now, it is, what it is.

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Nyaora
Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 22:43 (UTC)
# 18
On: Jun 8, 2023, 17:26 (UTC), Written by Gargulc

She is not when it comes to grind at 1-hit spots.

Ah yes, because the game is just 1-hit spots entirely.

Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 23:33 (UTC)
# 19
On: Jun 8, 2023, 22:43 (UTC), Written by GreenShadow

Ah yes, because the game is just 1-hit spots entirely.

When you grind for artifacts like map or pots, then yes.

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Nyaora
Last Edit : Jun 8, 2023, 23:42 (UTC)
# 20
On: Jun 8, 2023, 23:33 (UTC), Written by Gargulc

When you grind for artifacts like map or pots, then yes.

Then i guess Succession Nova is also a clown class by your standards. 

Or any slow class.
Dude, please.

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