Music is key to the class and a huge part of the game for a lot of people who build a community within BDO, and don’t just grind... Many video covered on this subject. Easy for some players to forget how big that is in BDO is they arnt directly part of it, but i have taken the time to explore lost of accept of BDO.

If you find this clownish, maybe your view of the class and that part of the game needs adjusting, maybe you have picked the wrong class and would prefer a more standard PvP /grind class? (or OP easy class that is needed in any MMO so lesser skilled people have access to the game, we just smile at such people and say  ‘there, there.’ succ sage, maegu before adjustments, anyone?)

Dances, mounts, other gimmicks. If we got them or not would have very little impact on the functionality of shai in the game. A lot of that is asset sharing from DokeV, kinda cool, almost like free extras, and happens because its relatively easy for PA to port over the assets. Only issue i take with this is J/PA pretends like it was some special extra effort and gift to the BDO player.

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This has left some players confused as to why PA gives us such changes when we have asked for things to be fixed, I was confused to till I learnt of the other game. If PA where more open and clear about this, there would be less confusion and dislike of the process. Oops PA. But nah, PA want to double dip on the PR thinking that’s good business, but in some cases it backfired.

It’s good business asset share between games and nice to have the extras for shai, but it was not out of special kindness for the player. This misleading from J and PA can lead the player base to believe PA are putting resources into none important aspects of the game (a misunderstanding due to PA presentation of facts’).

As for changes to shai, and 'none new' classes. Once a class has had is launch and early stage, the dev window is closed. They can’t just makes changes on a whim (unless is very minor (Hay pa FIX the striker vs shai damage mods already you made a bug and applied the 50% twice!!! 4 years and wating), or so important it needs a hot fix - when shai damage reduction was apllied zero times vs drak - same error but othere way around... PA fixed it in 2 week,now this is disturbing and i fear is our staff here that dose not explain and pass that on correctly! will make a 3RD video explain the error this year and submit AGAIN! - cus if it was not and error, 4 years and not PA or a CM can explain guantlet vs shai damage modifiers, yet i have done a video showing the error in the math (last was submited via tickets, i think i was lide to about it geting passed on).. hmm... me thinks someone on the team thinks they know better or dont care for shai? If it's as its menna be, okay , just tell us why its that way - lore? mechanics? balance? think the correct value is not around 20~% but 57~% wow! according to the corrected math).

Till there are enough changes on the board for a class, and time is free / set aside, No changes happen. Seem each class get a 'rework' every 6-8months if there is enough to change.

Shai got buffs and big one, ones I think did effect the balance of the game, fairly? debatable, and keeping an eye one what the community say about that one, cus i have hear some trashy talk from some streamers, who have been narrow-minded.

whole sets of grumpy script written and voice ready for editing on that subjects but meh, not ready for the drama it would cause, will wait and see if there is a need to say something (lots goes on outside of the forums - very small scope here -Staff would love the forums to be more of a part of BDO, hay, done the video for you, explained how to improve, rest is on you :P.)

She got all level 3 skills, the magnus skills she got was one of the most needed and best of all classes, a Defensive and aggressive SA heal, it change how she can be played. Before that set of improvments? she didn get boofs on her rage skill and that was changed (also a huge change in grinding and pvp)

There are functional issues with shai, which we go over and over cus that’s important. These are logged and listed, Some PA agree to look at, some PA think are not important, and we wont see any chances till the next window for shai... even then, changes happen, we live with them for a long time and then wait for the next window (same for all classes)

As for shias grind? Yet again, there are issues in some areas, The nefs to misty hit mid game hard. I took months learning at lest 5 classes and testing shai midgame, in spots where she should shine (given the classes design) and spots of pure functionality. There were areas that even the worst classes of the time, according to the narrate,  beat shai, such a old succ drak.

None of it was hear say, all test where recorded and uploaded and conclusion videos presented (22 in total) and sent to PA. we got changes, we got adjustments (was a lot of work on my part and zero recognition from the community cus, meh, im wired and stuff so we don’t talk about me :P – oh and I don’t hold my tonge, I call out issues in the game and staff, so I’m a problem that must be kept hidden, fair? but I won’t change PA :P but its a shame i kept out of the happer and rewarding said of the comunity becuse i'm willing to ask for improvments in staff and not just the game - A sacrifices I’m willing to make for the player,  cus when I say I care? I mean it and back it up with action )

So although I get it when someone say, clown class, it’s a huge misunderstanding of the class, and incredibly short sighted. Maybe I put to much effort into the game and shai… maybe, but that my aspersers for ya… I could just be all trendy and cool and mock things, but that not me (anymore)

Extended Iframe would be OP (but arnt a lot of classes, oh sorcs, the fun times we have in RBF) but SA all the way though, after iframe? why not.

It's a key skills for shai, like block is for some classes (or iframe for sorc), so why should she not be able to remain on the floor even when hit by CC?

Shai tuff, she can handle it :P

shes already great! best class in game :) Class for the best PvPers to express thier skill as she has no class carry :) Fact!

why it's important she never gets to many pvp ajustments, cus where do the top tier pvper go when they really wanna prove they are the best? well there is only shai left.

good grinder for sure, issues in some places, not the Top of the top as some propagandize... but they do that so they can have their own classes boofed.

she has areas she excels in (the best, nah, unless you count here ability to boost group play, she is the best at that, but that’s her deigns, so little competition in game for that spot - for now)

And that has become a sticking point. To us it seem obvious that surf should be protected (even by PA logic, but that gets confusing), to PA they see that as giving shai the ability to be more aggressive and that’s not in their plans. That’s why any suggestion need to take that into account and work within PA's wants and restrictions for the class.

We have asked for protection on surf, and we can keep asking, maybe PA will finally give in, or maybe they will hold out till the correct solution is proposed. There are solutions within PA scope for shai, but gonna take a lot of work and presentation to get them to listen. Smoll steps :) (after all, kinda get one shot at it evey 6-8 months)

Agree with that in some area for sure, functionality issues and effects midgame a lot. To the point old suc drak, classed as one of the worst classes, did better than shai in test (recorded and proven). I didn’t test old corsair at the time, cus well, was learning 5 classes already ><

But the narrative was, she was top tier in all areas.. this was incorrect.

(Tests did not require me to master 5 new classes, just learn them enough to out perform my main that I have 1000day+ days on, these where not grind tire compassion test where I claim to have testes all classes properly :P but it was still months of hard work, from waking up to sleep, grind and learn, worth it for the class, and PA listend...kinda :P)

we live in an equal world. 

So yes, she should be able to defend herself and thus be able to do PVP 1vs1. 

we won't get around our DSF problem with that if it stays the way it is.

I don't even care if they completely revise the class.

and the sentence that you failed with the class

is not an argument.

in my work, i'm not allowed to say something like that.

either you throw away the class and lose the corresponding players or you tackle the problem.

we live in an equal world. 

So yes, she should be able to defend herself and thus be able to do PVP 1vs1. 

we won't get around our DSF problem with that if it stays the way it is.

I don't even care if they completely revise the class.

Personally i would hate to see the class changed too much (reworked), but that me and I like the challenges.

But you make a good point with DFS. Too many times I here that all classes need to be within range when it come to Pve and i agree (and PA are addressing that).

And shai nothing special anymore, not even close to special. Seems fair in their (streamers who push for balanced pve) eyes, why?

They ignore DFS , zero cash hours and trash per year of a class cus they look at ‘garmoth’ only. It’s not like they don’t know there is a DFS issue, and if you factor in shais DFS and less access to arsha(50%) and the drop boof… then shai falls to the bottom of PvE (as an avrage).

Yes, streamers say lest focus on PvE, PvP is its own things (they say it keeps things simple), like it has no impact on PvE. Sad thing is these streamers know it does, but they don’t want to have to tackle such a difficult topic (on behalf of the shai player)… nah, they want their class boosted to to fair levels in PvE, and shai position is just too complicated.

And as PvE is treaded so differently in KR, they will not  point it out either, cus they wait for spot. Shai inability to DFS in ‘like for like’ gear, doses not really exist there  (to them that doubt; go on ask Hue hotbar’ KR stream if you don’t wanna take my word)

Maybe shai need a succession spec too. Sure, I love the group play and buffing, but to make shai a full usable class, and so called fair. There need to be a more power and selfish option too. jsut how BDO is, its a PvP game, PA said it!

Or as I said before, if shai is gonna be down bad in DFS, then her PVE need to be above all other classes to balance it out (noticably so)… Streamers don’t agree cus they ignore DFS.

But till streamer stop lying about this issue. We aint got much of a voice. Remember that next time you see them pretending to represent the player… as long as it doesn’t get in the way of that they want :P

therefore the ending animation should have a unprotected gap so its clearly not an aggressive move but a defensive one that is intended to get us out of sticky situations

Imagine if Shai's vacuum attack actually worked.