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#Suggestions
Revamp Shai PvE Rotation
Jun 18, 2023, 16:39 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Oct 3, 2023, 14:49 (UTC)
# 1

Family Name: Dreadspark

Region (NA/EU): NA

Suggestions/Comments: 
Please change Shai's damage ratios for PvE so that less time is spent holding RMB. Many Shai players do not use skills like Eat This, Try This, Twirl-Three IV, or Kwik-Two V. These skills could open up the class rotation if they dealt more damage and let players use a more complex rotation for PvE. I understand the class is meant to be more on the casual and easy side and buffing the PvE damage on these skills will not take away from that simplicity but rather will reward those players who have played the class for a long time and want & looking for a more complex playstyle.

Suggestions:
Try This!: Applies the same attack speed buff as tuck and roll, which will not stack, and grants forward-guard during the skill.
Eat This!: T3 Addons & Does the same or similar damage as Twirl-Boom!
Twirl-Three IV: Add a buff that increases critical hit damage for a short time, cancelable by "Hop III" or "Tuck & Roll."
Kwik-Two V: Add a buff that increases back attack damage for a short time.
Twirl-Boom: Make it Super-Armor.
Hop: While on cooldown, make it a super armor. (no procs)

Potential suggestion:
Each of the above damage skills has a chance of granting the shai a buff, which will significantly increase the PVE damage of their next "Go!" if used in a time window.

These changes will encourage players to use the other skills to gain additional buffs which will reward their effort and compensate for the lost DPS by empowering their 1-2-3 for a short period. If applied, the PvE rotation would embody the Shai class by revolving around buffs and debuffs while making it more fun for players tired of holding RMB for most of their playtime.
Last Edit : Jun 18, 2023, 16:46 (UTC)
# 2

+1
Try This! you cant cancel the animation, i dont see why it doesnt have FG.

Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 22:47 (UTC)
# 3

+1

I remember during our last round of nerfs, the immediate silver lining that I saw was that they were done in a way which weakened RMB relative to the rest of the toolkit, and I hoped this meant we would see more use for other skills. PA also nerfed Try This! at the same time though which makes no sense at all..

Anyways, it didnt work out. I now use less abilities than I did even then. Not as the the result of the changes but instead because our finest nerds figured out that skills I was already using werent good.

Just an additional thought- Make Twirl-Boom a baseline skill. Its a core part of our kit, Ive only ever taken tumble wumble over it because of specific boss mechanic in pit that requires it.

Our kit needs more skills anyways, and as a skill it could be attached to t2 or t3 addons. Currently we have so few use worthy skills that we dont even get all our addons up in T1.

Also Also, letting Twirl-Boom cancel Yippee would be great. Twirl Boom takes about as long as the wind down animation of Yippee, and would make Yippee feel a lot better and cooler in PvE. They wouldnt even need animation edits, they would go together perfect- it just looks like mid-Yippee the Shai kicked her board up into her hands, spins and yeets it. \o/

Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 22:59 (UTC)
# 4

+1

i grind with most of these skills already, and i get terrable numbers cus of it... but i like the animations :)

would be nice if using shai full kit ment same or better results and not less :( 

Last Edit : Jul 15, 2023, 15:15 (UTC)
# 5

With all the class changes, this finally seems like a good time to talk more on what Shai changes might be. 

Last Edit : Jul 15, 2023, 15:29 (UTC)
# 6

+1

I mostly use my Shai for farming and alchemy, so, I don't fight much with her.  Part of the reason is that she is not so efficient at grinding.  So, any buff to her combat skills would be most welcome.  

While we're at it, PA, could you give her huge lifeskill buffs as well?  Seriously, she has no real advantage for lifeskilling over other classes.

P.S.

Please make her surfing move an attack that knocks down enemies as she plows into them, particularly when F is pressed.  That would be so cool.

We could make "monster bowling" a sport.

Last Edit : Jul 15, 2023, 16:14 (UTC)
# 7
On: Jul 15, 2023, 15:26 (UTC), Written by Musa4ever

+1

I mostly use my Shai for farming and alchemy, so, I don't fight much with her.  Part of the reason is that she is not so efficient at grinding.  So, any buff to her combat skills would be most welcome.  

While we're at it, PA, could you give her huge lifeskill buffs as well?  Seriously, she has no real advantage for lifeskilling over other classes.

P.S.

Please make her surfing move an attack that knocks down enemies as she plows into them, particularly when F is pressed.  That would be so cool.

We could make "monster bowling" a sport.

lol that's a hilarious concept! I could def get down for some yippee damage, but the main purpose of this post was to move away from the rmb spam rotation by rewarding a slightly more complex and stationary rotation which fit into the idea of short-term buffs/debuffs/protections. This, alongside our 60s buffs and party buffs mechanics, would enrich every Shais gameplay experience by providing them access to the same fun combat system that has made BDO one of the best MMORPGs in the world.

Last Edit : Sep 24, 2023, 17:00 (UTC)
# 8

Upon popular demand I updated OP to include SA on hop while on CD. There have been LOTS of other awesome requests but this is meant primarily to target the gameplay of shai while using her florang skills.

Other suggestions such as infinite Yippee while cool are a bit out of the scope for this thread. Plz plz feel free to make those posts and if you'd like to link to them here then feel free to do so! ♥

Last Edit : Sep 24, 2023, 17:10 (UTC)
# 9

Did you just ask for.... SHAI BUFFS?!?!?! *police sirens*

Last Edit : Sep 26, 2023, 15:20 (UTC)
# 10
On: Sep 24, 2023, 17:10 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

Did you just ask for.... SHAI BUFFS?!?!?! *police sirens*

Oh no, not buffs. I asked for changes to make the PvE more engaging by allowing players to use more skills in PvE.

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