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[LOML] We need to talk about the elephant in the room...
Jun 19, 2023, 08:56 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 08:57 (UTC)
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While I dislike having to come here to obviously complain about the new expansion, I want to first express a bittersweet success of Black Desert's overdue expansion.  Land of the Morning Light (aka Port Ratt remade) obviously took a lot of work and probably thousands of man hours to create.  I respect the original Korean artists that probably didn't get paid very well.  The "elephant in the room" is characters such as Dolswe, who not only fail to sound Asian at all, but also sound like they hired the voice-over from Fiver.  Maybe they didn't need to make voice-overs at all, if they left some of them speaking the original Korean, and used subtitles.  I know not everyone likes to read subtitles, but I really don't care to hear strange voices that sound like a Godzilla remake.  I for one, enjoy watching Korean movies and soap operas in the original language with subtitles. When I see a person, who should at least have an asian accent, talk like he is your mechanic down at the local garage, it make me a little sad for this game.  I am not saying they should have gone overtly thick with stereotypical Fu Manchu or Ming the Merciless accents, but whatever they are right now sounds like low budget voice-overs.  I know I have heard worse in other MMOs, but they are free to play.  I would expect Black Desert to be better, as it is still a premium game charging for access and value.

Since this appears to be their final expansion, I wonder what they will do for the future.  There are no "veins" left in the Magnus, I can only imagine they will simply build upon areas already connected to the Magnus.  There are some large areas south of Valencia and east of Eilton.  I would expect that will be more about the animal hybred demi-humans they now call Abets.  If they expand in that direction, I would expect they could add Abet playable characters at that time.  Hopefully they will - at some point - repair or replace the spoken voice-overs that sound out of place in this new expansion. 

Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 09:03 (UTC)
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On: Jun 19, 2023, 08:56 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

While I dislike having to come here to obviously complain about the new expansion, I want to first express a bittersweet success of Black Desert's overdue expansion.  Land of the Morning Light (aka Port Ratt remade) obviously took a lot of work and probably thousands of man hours to create.  I respect the original Korean artists that probably didn't get paid very well.  The "elephant in the room" is characters such as Dolswe, who not only fail to sound Asian at all, but also sound like they hired the voice-over from Fiver.  Maybe they didn't need to make voice-overs at all, if they left some of them speaking the original Korean, and used subtitles.  I know not everyone likes to read subtitles, but I really don't care to hear strange voices that sound like a Godzilla remake.  I for one, enjoy watching Korean movies and soap operas in the original language with subtitles. When I see a person, who should at least have an asian accent, talk like he is your mechanic down at the local garage, it make me a little sad for this game.  I am not saying they should have gone overtly thick with stereotypical Fu Manchu or Ming the Merciless accents, but whatever they are right now sounds like low budget voice-overs.  I know I have heard worse in other MMOs, but they are free to play.  I would expect Black Desert to be better, as it is still a premium game charging for access and value.

Since this appears to be their final expansion, I wonder what they will do for the future.  There are no "veins" left in the Magnus, I can only imagine they will simply build upon areas already connected to the Magnus.  There are some large areas south of Valencia and east of Eilton.  I would expect that will be more about the animal hybred demi-humans they now call Abets.  If they expand in that direction, I would expect they could add Abet playable characters at that time.  Hopefully they will - at some point - repair or replace the spoken voice-overs that sound out of place in this new expansion. 

Well, do we really know the accent people from BDO Land of the Morning Light should have? I mean, yes there are references to real cultures, but it's still a game. Devs could have decided to give a heavy German accent to these people, who are we to criticize such a choice?

To be honest, I'm pretty happy to see that they avoided some clichés. 

Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 09:25 (UTC)
# 3

Avoided some cliches only to replace them with others, maybe :)  's'all good. I think I get what they're going for.

To the OP: you can go into the settings and choose Korean for NPC voices, which appears to fill your request.

As for Dolswe's voice: finish the quests.

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Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 15:53 (UTC)
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On: Jun 19, 2023, 08:56 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

While I dislike having to come here to obviously complain about the new expansion, I want to first express a bittersweet success of Black Desert's overdue expansion.  Land of the Morning Light (aka Port Ratt remade) obviously took a lot of work and probably thousands of man hours to create.  I respect the original Korean artists that probably didn't get paid very well.  The "elephant in the room" is characters such as Dolswe, who not only fail to sound Asian at all, but also sound like they hired the voice-over from Fiver.  Maybe they didn't need to make voice-overs at all, if they left some of them speaking the original Korean, and used subtitles.  I know not everyone likes to read subtitles, but I really don't care to hear strange voices that sound like a Godzilla remake.  I for one, enjoy watching Korean movies and soap operas in the original language with subtitles. When I see a person, who should at least have an asian accent, talk like he is your mechanic down at the local garage, it make me a little sad for this game.  I am not saying they should have gone overtly thick with stereotypical Fu Manchu or Ming the Merciless accents, but whatever they are right now sounds like low budget voice-overs.  I know I have heard worse in other MMOs, but they are free to play.  I would expect Black Desert to be better, as it is still a premium game charging for access and value.

Since this appears to be their final expansion, I wonder what they will do for the future.  There are no "veins" left in the Magnus, I can only imagine they will simply build upon areas already connected to the Magnus.  There are some large areas south of Valencia and east of Eilton.  I would expect that will be more about the animal hybred demi-humans they now call Abets.  If they expand in that direction, I would expect they could add Abet playable characters at that time.  Hopefully they will - at some point - repair or replace the spoken voice-overs that sound out of place in this new expansion. 

you can go in audio option and put in korean voice

Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 16:40 (UTC)
# 5

speak for yourself.

What i took out of the expansion:

Forced story with hours of unskippable cutscenes

Dawn Quest locked behind ALL new Story Quests

Timegated Journal for Boss Rush

Only 5 Clears/Week out of 9 Bosses

New crystals MASSIVE rng + Timegate, realistically every1 either gets lucky with getting the crystal they need or w8 several months market saturation for a chance of PO.

I dont mind how long it takes for 500 embers, since you can rush it day 1 or let it ride ( my choice )

Thats about the only positive thing i have from the expansion.

I did kinda like the bosses, BUT since you dont get the rewards instantly and its only 5 clears... it just doesnt feel good. You basically do the clears and get nothing and then 5 loot piniatas that possible have only junk.

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Last Edit : Jun 19, 2023, 17:47 (UTC)
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On: Jun 19, 2023, 08:56 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

Since this appears to be their final expansion, I wonder what they will do for the future.  There are no "veins" left in the Magnus, I can only imagine they will simply build upon areas already connected to the Magnus.  There are some large areas south of Valencia and east of Eilton.  I would expect that will be more about the animal hybred demi-humans they now call Abets.  If they expand in that direction, I would expect they could add Abet playable characters at that time.  Hopefully they will - at some point - repair or replace the spoken voice-overs that sound out of place in this new expansion. 

The magnus can be as big as it needs to be, it doesn' thave to be a sphere with nothing else. It can have more places to travel at the top rim, it can have entire cities within. They can expand the magnus in many directions, they could even redesign the magnus to have multiple floors of teleports or make it wider in circumference. The sky is the limit for it.

I don't believe this is their final expansion, there are so many other places to continue on. First, they need to complete already existing areas on the map. Second, there's an entire world that could exist underground, we don't know but it could. Third, magnus could expand, although I haven't completed LoML I don't know how it ends.

The biggest problem right now that PA is facing is being able to expand the map bigger than it is currently. Right now they lack the technology to do so but they have been working at overcoming this somehow. There are many more continents that could be added as well. Adding new classes might be tricky because there are 26 classes and only 30 character slots technologically possible. So until they can expand this, they can only add up to 4 new classes.

BDO is reaching its limits I think in terms on how big it can be, I don't think when they started making this game they thought that it could get this big and popular. Unfortunately now they'll have to really overcome huge technological problems.

On: Jun 19, 2023, 08:56 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

Hopefully they will - at some point - repair or replace the spoken voice-overs that sound out of place in this new expansion. 

Are you referring to the southern accent? That was done on purpose to illustrate the southern accents found in country regions of korea. As a bonus ProZD is the main VA for the expansion. =)

This was hidden by admin due to the reports it has received.
Last Edit : Jun 20, 2023, 03:36 (UTC)
# 8

I see I got down voted because I acknowledged the hard work done for this expansion?  Doesn't matter to me, toss more at me.

It isn't as much about the "Southern Accent" more so about the quality, motivation, and direction.  These VOAs sound like they are "phoning in their lines".  It is like no one looked at or was handed a photo of the character they would portrait.  As for the southern accent of Dolswe, Tooshaitopost, I did see the developer video where his accent was much thicker and sounded like my Aunt in Alabama.  I am glad it was a lesser middle road taken. 

However need I remind everyone, this is not American only game, we share this version with Europe too.  NA/EU means the Europeans hear this same spoken dialog.  Southern Europe doesn't get to hear an Italian accent, nor do the people of the UK get a Estuary English accent. I am mostly concerned about "quality" and less about artistic expression.  If they had German or Slavic accents, it may or may not work, but the audio quality of these VO's is just off.

I do respect all your opinions posted above.  Thanks for those who pointed out the Korean audio swap, that works for me.

Last Edit : Jun 20, 2023, 03:56 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jun 20, 2023, 03:36 (UTC), Written by LooneyYellowBear

[...] the audio quality of these VO's is just off. [...]

Oh, that.  Yeah, there are some (ahem) "technical" difficulties in places...

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