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First come first serve: A better Etiquette to DFS
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# 201
On: Apr 20, 2021, 18:47 (UTC), Written by Rom117

i dont mind a dfs, but it can get out of hand. When every 10 min someone comes of after a server change u cant change again and loot scrolls running..

Also i tried a "no thank you" after beeing asked for duel, then they go red and try to kill xD

 

some years ago i didnt find it too anoying since there dont was a dfs so often as of today.

I mean ppl rly dfs on lifeskill spots and changing character and buffin up wiht all shit before taking dfs.. i mean whats the point then. 

 

"wait i just go to grana pick some buffs and change my char to my valencia pvp dude then we can dfs right away" xD

Swapping channels is just a pathetic excuse by Pearl Abyss to exhault themselves of responsibility for fixing the issue.  The reality is you are very likely to just become the problem if you do that.  You may load into an already full location and you just reward bullying behavior.

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# 202
On: Apr 20, 2021, 20:07 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Swapping channels is just a pathetic excuse by Pearl Abyss to exhault themselves of responsibility for fixing the issue.  The reality is you are very likely to just become the problem if you do that.  You may load into an already full location and you just reward bullying behavior.

 

Would be nice if there was only a 5 minutes channel swap CD instead of the current one. Which is way too long.

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# 205
On: Apr 21, 2021, 12:45 (UTC), Written by Woots


Still trying to not answer Strawman ?

Bring your proof, write them all here instead of strawmaning around to avoid to actualy answer.

 

So, i dont mind, i will copy paste again, to keep show what kind of clown you are.

&

 

Please proceed, and copy paste. Basically, you find me guilty of not recently spamming the forums with the same answers I already gave you too many times, the same ones you ignored.

Interesting concept... But since when do I have to comply with your orders? XD

 

 

Do you at least have an opinion about DFS? I can't remember, with your repetitive attacks. 

Last Edit : Apr 21, 2021, 22:09 (UTC)
# 206
On: Apr 21, 2021, 04:23 (UTC), Written by FearlessMe

 

Would be nice if there was only a 5 minutes channel swap CD instead of the current one. Which is way too long.

That could to lead to some exploits and garbage game play that is actually optimal.  While it's less relevant now things like Cadry swapping for Elites could become problematic.  The same for bosses etc.

 

It could also make Imperial worse in many cases.

Otherwise I would agree.

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Last Edit : Apr 21, 2021, 22:29 (UTC)
# 207
On: Mar 26, 2021, 19:25 (UTC), Written by frumpylumps

First come first serve has been the golden rule of mmo gaming since its beginnings.  In WoW, players formed lines to defeat rare monsters.   This has been widely regarded as the method most fair to everyone.

 

In BDO, many players have adopted a different method of conflict resolution, "Duel for spot".  DFS is unforutately not fair to everyone, however.  It favors a particular meta of class imbalance,  gear imbalance, and skill imbalance, or combination thereof, in 1v1 to determine who should be allowed to grind at a particular location.    DFS is commonly pushed by such players as a means of conflict resolution, and of course has become a topic of contention.

 

In Korea DFS is not even a thing because the players respect the fact someone else was there first.  Imagine waiting in line in WoW to kill a rare mob and a highly geared/skilled player cuts in the front of the line on the basis that they are more deserving of the spot because they are more geared/skilled than the other players- this is essentially what DFS is.  It is a pvp game after all, and enforcing your will through pvp is part of the game as well and if you can do that without unecessary conflict, the better.

 

First come first serve is a better etiquitte because it is fair to everyone and you don't have to waste time dueling on your loot scrolls/buffs everytime someone comes along and says "DFS" while you are trying to be efficient.  

 

Is there anyone who can think of something wrong with FCFS ettiquette? Players who might grind in areas where they aren't efficient will eventually regulate themselves.  Instead of asking "DFS?"  try, "How long?"  

 

Why not adopt FCFS as a more player friendly ettiqute for popular grind spots and make the game a little less elitist?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i never dfs, and till this day i didnt even know what it ment. even if they kill me, they lose karma and in the end they leave so gg. you meet some players that you just pass randomly and they shout "taken" like really who cares, even if its "taken" its not yours its everybodys place to grind or whatever.

Last Edit : Apr 22, 2021, 12:26 (UTC)
# 208
On: Mar 26, 2021, 19:25 (UTC), Written by frumpylumps

First come first serve has been the golden rule of mmo gaming since its beginnings.  In WoW, players formed lines to defeat rare monsters.   This has been widely regarded as the method most fair to everyone.

 

In BDO, many players have adopted a different method of conflict resolution, "Duel for spot".  DFS is unforutately not fair to everyone, however.  It favors a particular meta of class imbalance,  gear imbalance, and skill imbalance, or combination thereof, in 1v1 to determine who should be allowed to grind at a particular location.    DFS is commonly pushed by such players as a means of conflict resolution, and of course has become a topic of contention.

 

In Korea DFS is not even a thing because the players respect the fact someone else was there first.  Imagine waiting in line in WoW to kill a rare mob and a highly geared/skilled player cuts in the front of the line on the basis that they are more deserving of the spot because they are more geared/skilled than the other players- this is essentially what DFS is.  It is a pvp game after all, and enforcing your will through pvp is part of the game as well and if you can do that without unecessary conflict, the better.

 

First come first serve is a better etiquitte because it is fair to everyone and you don't have to waste time dueling on your loot scrolls/buffs everytime someone comes along and says "DFS" while you are trying to be efficient.  

 

Is there anyone who can think of something wrong with FCFS ettiquette? Players who might grind in areas where they aren't efficient will eventually regulate themselves.  Instead of asking "DFS?"  try, "How long?"  

 

Why not adopt FCFS as a more player friendly ettiqute for popular grind spots and make the game a little less elitist?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

haha, alt + c go brrrr

Last Edit : Apr 22, 2021, 14:49 (UTC)
# 209
On: Apr 22, 2021, 12:26 (UTC), Written by ItsRayn

haha, alt + c go brrrr

Haha, you game's active player count is in the dumpster. Without the afk leveling and lifeskills. Your game would just be another irrelevant Korean grinder. Imagine being proud of that. LEL

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