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P.A.: PLS Remove elephants from EU KAMA 2 players chat/talk/music/dance spot !
Jun 27, 2023, 19:28 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Feb 3, 2024, 16:39 (UTC)
# 81
On: Feb 3, 2024, 16:21 (UTC), Written by Imaishi

it's you who sounds as if you believe you own the game. you don't own the roof or any other part of the game, do you?

I think there is a bit more to the post than that? it mentions the issue of being harassed for no reason, the real subject at hand within this thread.

Last Edit : Feb 3, 2024, 18:45 (UTC)
# 82
On: Feb 3, 2024, 15:39 (UTC), Written by ElectroStingz

I don't think any of us are in a position to doubt the GM's or their actions, we have no idea what they know or have observed.

And think about it, really ban players for this issue? That would be extreme in my view and any alternative that does not involve a ban is a better option.

But the point of this thread is to try and find a solution to this problem of griefing and harassment.

Okay and killing players and mounts isnt? That's more of abuse of power and hardly solves the problem. Besides the ban would be temporary at first, but then after the second or third offense permenant for harassment. 

Last Edit : Feb 3, 2024, 19:15 (UTC)
# 83
On: Feb 3, 2024, 18:45 (UTC), Written by Nissa

Okay and killing players and mounts isnt? That's more of abuse of power and hardly solves the problem. Besides the ban would be temporary at first, but then after the second or third offense permenant for harassment. 

You see the problem with this?

Assume a temp ban occurred, would you still be here suggesting an abuse of power?

You would, so instead we must have a better solution.

Last Edit : Feb 3, 2024, 19:19 (UTC)
# 84
On: Feb 3, 2024, 19:15 (UTC), Written by ElectroStingz

You see the problem with this?

Assume a temp ban occurred, would you still be here suggesting an abuse of power?

You would, so instead we must have a better solution.

No I wouldn't, they've banned people for harassment before. It would discourage people from following suit. Regardless I've stated my opinions and feelings on this matter so I'm finished here. I genuinely hope that a better solution is found.

Last Edit : Feb 3, 2024, 19:36 (UTC)
# 85
On: Feb 3, 2024, 18:45 (UTC), Written by Nissa

Okay and killing players and mounts isnt? That's more of abuse of power and hardly solves the problem. Besides the ban would be temporary at first, but then after the second or third offense permenant for harassment. 

What is their intent putting those elephants there, THEN moving them to disrupt others?  Why do you care?  Was it you? I support the GM on this 

Last Edit : Feb 3, 2024, 22:01 (UTC)
# 86

I don't understand what is the practical use of chasing on elephants after musicians and other folks of art and culture. I think there is no practical one but emotional.

Everyone plays games to get satisfying emotional expririence. In our case the specific group of elephants riders got bored and found a new source of emotional response in game by offending and annoying the Kama2-roof-folk. The native game content doesn't satisfy the "elephants riders" any more in the same scale as a social conflicts with real people does (as pvp-fans they also are searching for conflicts), which is incompatible to Kama2-folks whose goal is the opposite one. Like cats and mice incompatible are - what are the odds that they would untroubled coexist in the same room?

Therefore "to ban anyone" isn't a good solution, because a "ban" may lead to playerbase reduction. I would prefer to separate these groups of players so that they don't intersect in their main activities. For example: to give Velia city (Kama2) official title "Art & Culture Center of BDO", which means everyone can practise peaceful their activities, like composing and sharing music, dancing, cosplaying etc. where any mount and similar draft animal goes for example after 5 min of afking to stable. Which is my personal opinion.

Last Edit : Feb 4, 2024, 01:27 (UTC)
# 87

Elvia is perfect for RP. Have fun :)

Last Edit : Feb 4, 2024, 06:11 (UTC)
# 88
On: Feb 4, 2024, 01:27 (UTC), Written by Azurwind

Elvia is perfect for RP. Have fun :)

I agree, would make way more sense moving the Elephants to Elvia - then everyone can get on with their lives

Last Edit : Feb 4, 2024, 06:15 (UTC)
# 89

That what happen yersterday on roof was all against GM Polly !

People talked enraged to him because he removed a few guild elephants from roof! Day before he doesnt remove any elephant so musicans was ganked whole day by all stuff which i posted serval times before. 

I hope p.a. stand to his GM which tried to get this roof clean again and find a solution for this problem. 

But i saw that whats happen and thought - EU GMs did a bad bad job for doing nothing about "game-rules and engagement" ! Thats the main reason GM Polly where blamed by so much players - "no respect" anymore and seems like ppl think GMs are only in game to give a buff from time to time. 

I hope that developers react fast if this happens again to a GM ! And i hope GM Polly made serval videos and show em to p.a. - so their solution will depend on what happen next weeks on eu server.

Atm it looks like p.a. has lost control of their own game to a ganker-playerbase and all their friends. 

My opinion !

Last Edit : Feb 4, 2024, 07:40 (UTC)
# 90
On: Feb 4, 2024, 06:12 (UTC), Written by Ballerina

That what happen yersterday on roof was all against GM Polly !

People talked enraged to him because he removed a few guild elephants from roof! Day before he doesnt remove any elephant so musicans was ganked whole day by all stuff which i posted serval times before. 

I hope p.a. stand to his GM which tried to get this roof clean again and find a solution for this problem. 

But i saw that whats happen and thought - EU GMs did a bad bad job for doing nothing about "game-rules and engagement" ! Thats the main reason GM Polly where blamed by so much players - "no respect" anymore and seems like ppl think GMs are only in game to give a buff from time to time. 

I hope that developers react fast if this happens again to a GM ! And i hope GM Polly made serval videos and show em to p.a. - so their solution will depend on what happen next weeks on eu server.

Atm it looks like p.a. has lost control of their own game to a ganker-playerbase and all their friends. 

My opinion !

<3 GM Polly

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