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BDO is bad for casuals
Mar 26, 2021, 20:40 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 00:14 (UTC)
# 71
Écrit le : 1 avr. 2021, 00:04 (UTC), par : Vulpin

Facts. Sadly his idiocy destroies any form of dicussion happening on these forums cause he can't control his childish urges for two seconds.

Let's fact check your statement in this very topic:

 

You attempt to bullshit everyone about the amount a free crons supplied to the playerbase.

 

I correct you with facts as usual.

 

Instead of accepting the correction like an adult would do and move on with the discussion you burst in tears and start playing your usual victim song.

 

Then you manage to lie even harder by stating I'm anti conversation while you're the one who ruined it.

 

I'm all for discussing how BDO is for casuals if people your kind could refrain from lying about reality at every post to fit their hate agenda.

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 00:24 (UTC)
# 72
On: Apr 1, 2021, 00:14 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

Let's fact check your statement in this very topic:

Fact check sense you made your shit post that purpose was solely to create drama what now being discussed in this thread? Oh right it now all about you being a child creating drama and endlessly shit posting good job ruining another thread Simley anti discussion pro toxicity. Once again you've filled 1/2 of a thread with nothing but shit posts and drama single handedly again.

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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 01:22 (UTC)
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ok princess, let us know when you're done crying and ready to dicsuss how BDO is for casuals. Just refrain from bullshitting everyone about the amount of free crons we get, it's not THAT hard.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 02:01 (UTC)
# 74
On: Apr 1, 2021, 01:22 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

ok princess, let us know when you're done crying and ready to dicsuss how BDO is for casuals. Just refrain from bullshitting everyone about the amount of free crons we get, it's not THAT hard.

Why bother you'll just derail it again like a child this the new discussion Simley good job derailing yet another thread. Anti Discussion pro toxicity. Idk why your complaining either, I mean this what you want you don't want a discussion Simley you just want shit post and derail threads. So accept the results of your actions another ruined thread solely destroyed by you yet again good job.

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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 04:53 (UTC)
# 75
On: Mar 26, 2021, 20:40 (UTC), Written by Myrtus

I play since the beggining quiting a few times. Season and tuvalas are great for new players to learn the game and enchants. But meanwhile ppl are grinding high end spots making 400M an hour. People at intermediate levels can't benefit from season or high end spots leaving us in the purgatory. Enchanting system is also unfair making only 5% lucky ppl benefit. Maybe im frustated i grind a whole week for the potion and didnt drop a piece and broke 4 tri ogre rings making me a noob due poor luck. I feel im two years of grind behind. Maybe i need to afk fish all year or just quit the game entirely.

how did you get 5% lucky metric, trying to find the math, or maybe it's hyperbole......

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 05:26 (UTC)
# 76
On: Apr 1, 2021, 00:01 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Guess you forgot I had this saved huh. It fine I'll just show it to everyone again so ya keep trying to deny your BS. Cause your too much of a child to have a discussion or admit your wrong.

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Well, no, I didn't forget, but there's... Litterally nothing on this screenshot. Is that the worst you got from me? I didn't do better than that? Damn... 

 

But feel free to post it again, I'll even help you a little if I find the way to post a screenshot when typing from a smartphone! XD

 

 

 

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 05:37 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 05:09 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

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Well, no, I didn't forget, but there's... Litterally nothing on this screenshot. Is that the worst you got from me? I didn't do better than that? Damn... 

 

But feel free to post it again, I'll even help you a little if I find the way to post a screenshot when typing from a smartphone! XD

Ya you wouldn't see anything wrong in making that post. I mean you did it solely because i called you out for being toxic in another thread so you thought the childish action of going into another thread and posting a false assumption in a attempt to make pointless drama, shit post, and derail a discussion was cleaver. Don't know why I bother with you. So that settled than I name you Simley 2 and will ignore you like I do him now sense your basically just anti discussion pro toxicity clones of each other. You literally both do the exact same thing which is start pointless drama shit post people you don't like and derail threads and pretend you didn't do anything wrong.

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Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 06:35 (UTC)
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On: Apr 1, 2021, 05:36 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Ya you wouldn't see anything wrong in making that post. I mean you did it solely because i called you out for being toxic in another thread so you thought the childish action of going into another thread and posting a false assumption in a attempt to make pointless drama, shit post, and derail a discussion was cleaver. Don't know why I bother with you. So that settled than I name you Simley 2 and will ignore you like I do him now sense your basically just anti discussion pro toxicity clones of each other. You literally both do the exact same thing which is start pointless drama shit post people you don't like and derail threads and pretend you didn't do anything wrong.

Well... No, you're the only one overreacting, nearly every time someone points out your lack of precision, or even clear mistakes.

Even when pointing a precise sentence, you try to avoid the fact : hey buddy, it's a forum, you can be wrong sometimes, it happens. Stop creating stories about how you've been "offended" to hide it, above all if you do it with such screenshots as a basis!

You should also stop derailing the topic even more, you know? 

 

XD

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 12:49 (UTC)
# 79
On: Mar 31, 2021, 15:19 (UTC), Written by Sindara

Casuals can't play the game however they want, because they are casuals. Otherwise, what is the difference, what is a 'casual' and what does it even mean if it's no different from a hardcore no lifer?

 

Casuals have to play the game casual. Not how they want. Want is irrelevant.

 

You're not accepting the concept of a casual player playing casual content. You're wanting to be a casual player that also gets what the non-casual players get. It doesn't work like that. It doesn't matter how much you want to be a minimum wage shop worker who owns a Ferrari, it's not going to happen. You've got to be the guy with the good job who earns the big bucks. You live casual, you get casual rewards.

 

 

Why should a casual be able to clear the highest tier PvE content? That would make a mockery of tiers.

 

Again it doesn't work like that. I've played just about every MMO going and casuals don't get to clear the highest tier PvE content, because 'highest tier' means something, and it doesn't fit well with casual gameplay, nor it is supposed to. It's intended not to be for casuals. If you want that, you have to step your game up.

 

It doesn't matter what you *want* as a casual, it's not the trophy generation awards for all, it's BDO. You get casual rewards and access to casual content if you're casual. That's only fair. Otherwise, like I said, what's the difference and what even is 'casual'?

 

It sounds like you just want all the best thing things without doing the corresponding amount of hard work. That's something casual gamers simply have to accept they can't have.

 

You can't be a 'I want it all' casual. That's just a form of entitlement.

Hold your horses.

 

That "casuals don't get to clear the highest tier PvE content" depends largely on the MMO you're playing and how said MMO is designed. Speaking from personal experience here: I played several korean MMOs, especially Aion and Blade & Soul. I also played Guild Wars 2. I dare say that games can reach a proper balance between catering to the casual audience and the hardcore audience at the same time. Aion and Blade & Soul did so until these games got infested by P2W. A few hours per day enabled you to play in the upper 10% of the playerbase - including "highest tier PvE content". The only requirement was a decent skill-level and decent knowledge of the game and its mechanics with which you could compensate for gear-differences - a dependable static also helps. Sure, there were still gaps in PvP, but PvE in MMOs is mostly a trivial and almost purely mechanical matter. Especially korean MMOs are known for their lackluster PvE content anyway. As I've said though: That's only possible in decently designed MMOs. As soon as greed hits and P2W ruins the games by introducing excessively grindy bullshit and exponential progression-systems, said games inevitable go down the drain. I only ever had problems in Guild Wars 2 due to its rather un- - if not - antisocial nature and too casual-friendly vanilla-content.

 

What I witness almost every day in the MMO community is the heavily twisted perception the community developed due to the community being starved of decent MMOs and good game design. Every single popular MMO on the market is dirt-old - BDO somewhat included. Lazy Peon described the current situation quite well is this video:

 

https://youtu.be/u_2ttuyE1Rg

 

Every single MMO on the market is also at most a 5/10 if you were to rate their quality - including popular games like World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy XIV, Elder Scrolls Online and Guild Wars 2. If you were to rate BDO, you'd probably end up at a 2/10 since BDO barely qualifies as a framework. All BDO realistically has are its progression systems. There's scarcely any PvP-content and we basically have no real PvE-content in BDO. BDO doesn't even has a real, proper, cohesive community yet it's still popular because the market is starved and there is barely any competition. Like Peon said, there weren't even any real innovations in the genre during the last decade.

Last Edit : Apr 1, 2021, 13:06 (UTC)
# 80
On: Apr 1, 2021, 06:35 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud
 

What I quoted is how much I read. You already helped destroy this thread Simley 2 with Simley 1. Go find the next one to destroy it all your good at.

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