Casuals can't play the game however they want, because they are casuals. Otherwise, what is the difference, what is a 'casual' and what does it even mean if it's no different from a hardcore no lifer?

Casuals have to play the game casual. Not how they want. Want is irrelevant.

You're not accepting the concept of a casual player playing casual content. You're wanting to be a casual player that also gets what the non-casual players get. It doesn't work like that. It doesn't matter how much you want to be a minimum wage shop worker who owns a Ferrari, it's not going to happen. You've got to be the guy with the good job who earns the big bucks. You live casual, you get casual rewards.

Why should a casual be able to clear the highest tier PvE content? That would make a mockery of tiers.

Again it doesn't work like that. I've played just about every MMO going and casuals don't get to clear the highest tier PvE content, because 'highest tier' means something, and it doesn't fit well with casual gameplay, nor it is supposed to. It's intended not to be for casuals. If you want that, you have to step your game up.

It doesn't matter what you *want* as a casual, it's not the trophy generation awards for all, it's BDO. You get casual rewards and access to casual content if you're casual. That's only fair. Otherwise, like I said, what's the difference and what even is 'casual'?

It sounds like you just want all the best thing things without doing the corresponding amount of hard work. That's something casual gamers simply have to accept they can't have.

You can't be a 'I want it all' casual. That's just a form of entitlement.

It not about being right or wrong with Smiley. It about him finding an excuse he can to create drama, derail threads he doesn't like, and slander an shit post anyone he doesn't like. You know it I know it the whole forum community knows it. Why you choose to support his toxic actions time and time again though is beyond me though. What are you two friends or something? Got use the tribalism mentality to help your friend you know is in the wrong? 

1: I am not familiar with the new forums so i quoted his whole post.

2: I wanted to reply only to his last sentence.

3: Speaking of crons they really want people to spent real $ to buy outfits and melt them for cron stones.

Why you think that 99% of times, they only make good discounts on the exact same outfits (Succession / Awakening / Classic)?

Because a whale don't give a F how an outfit look like, he just buys them for melting purposes.

They do not discount variety of skins, because they want to take everyones money (both from casual and hardcore whales).

The casual players cannot buy the skins they like from the marketplace (because whales only buy the discounted Succession / Awakening / Classic boxes), so they spent real $ to buy the skin they like from the cash shop.

And the whales spent real $ for melting purposes.

4: Free crons is just an illusion to attract new players and make the unexperienced players happy.

If BDO was not a p2w game, costume melting and Artisans wouldn't exist in the first place.

Anyone who says otherwise he propably suffer from Stockholm syndrome -.-

Well, my answer speaks by itself and I was simply but precisely mentioning that on this point, he was right and you were wrong.

An how am I wrong exactly? I said you get 1-2 crons for killing a WB. Last I checked that how many crons I got killing garmonth yesterday an that how many I'll get killing Vell today. So no I wasn't wrong about what I said.

An Simley post is obviously him cherry picking my comment about outfit melting that was about me saying why I think it a scummy practice PA pushes down player's throats. He deliberately made a false assumption about what my post meant to white knight PA's actions, start drama, derail the discussion, and shit post me. Just like he did in the 4 other threads in this forum's section. I mean really he quoted me on a month old post in another thread at the same time he was shit posting me here. Just to derail the current discussion occurring in that thread. It doesn't take a having psychological degree to know what his intentions were with these post of his.

Now I'm done talking about that troll can we get back to the discussion.

No they want people to buy outfits off the cash shop and melt them into crons. Thus why you can buy an outfit off the MP for 300m than melt it into 300 crons but you need to spend 600m for 300 crons at the blacksmith. Also why when they give free crons it literal only 1-2 crons for killing a WB. An they know people will do it thus why they sell outfits for 30 dollars when other MMOs sell them for 10 dollars.

You're always done talking after throwing another stone in the lake.

Also why when they give free crons it literal only 1-2 crons for killing a WB. 

When they give free crons it goes far beyond 1-2 crons for killing a WB, we literally got more than a thousand in a short span of time. 

Don't cherry pick your own words just to say that you were not wrong, seriously. On this precise point, you were wrong ; now it doesn't change the fact that giving a taste of something is a common practice to get players used to it and create purchases, as some of you already perfectly mentioned, including you. 

Now, the topic has already been derailed even before that, don't you think ? 

I read half this an it you refusing to admit your wrong about me being wrong. Your suggesting I don't understand what I wrote, when I know exactly what I said an what it meant. It not my fault you failed to interpret what I said that a you problem. Now stop defending the obvious troll who only quoted me to start pointless drama. That great if your best friends an want support your friend but be real friend an tell him to grow up instead of supporting his childish behavior.

Or do you really need me to ignore you like I ignore him as well? Seems so cause every time you quote me it just about how you love smiley an how you both will post BS an idiocy at me just to derail any thread cause of how much hate an spite you have for me over what exactly? Cause I don't blindly agree with everything you two say like a sheep? Cause first time you quoted me it was just an insult an every other time it just been you trying to start pointless internet drama through BS claims, shit posts, and prasing Simley obvious trolling post targeting me.

An how am I wrong exactly? I said you get 1-2 crons for killing a WB. Last I checked that how many crons I got killing garmonth yesterday an that how many I'll get killing Vell today. So no I wasn't wrong about what I said.

An Simley post is obviously him cherry picking my comment about outfit melting that was about me saying why I think it a scummy practice PA pushes down player's throats. He deliberately made a false assumption about what my post meant to white knight PA's actions, start drama, derail the discussion, and shit post me. Just like he did in the 4 other threads in this forum's section. I mean really he quoted me on a month old post in another thread at the same time he was shit posting me here. Just to derail the current discussion occurring in that thread. It doesn't take a having psychological degree to know what his intentions were with these post of his.

Now I'm done talking about that troll can we get back to the discussion.

I didn't even see Smiley's discussion or comments about it.  I don't need to.  When you say "cherry picking" that's 99% of his posts.  He will intentionally ignore major points, facts, and the discussion just to argue some pointless detail.  He does it with everyone he interacts with.  If he can't find some eroneous thing to argue over he will just lie or make bland staments like Dodge and Astro Surf.

Pretty sad I don't even need to read the posts to know exacty how he responds.

Aaaah, the usual strategy when you're caught red-handed : "you insulted me".... "spite"... And the funny part, accusing other to start a drama while you're doing it yourself. Irony, oooh irony. 

Well, keep going without me this time, have fun! ;) 

I didn't even see Smiley's discussion or comments about it.  I don't need to.  When you say "cherry picking" that's 99% of his posts.  He will intentionally ignore major points, facts, and the discussion just to argue some pointless detail.  He does it with everyone he interacts with.  If he can't find some eroneous thing to argue over he will just lie or make bland staments like Dodge and Astro Surf.

Pretty sad I don't even need to read the posts to know exacty how he responds.