Okay if you are going to call a B2P game like ESO. Where if you outright buy all of the DLCs and Expansions you get everything. Which you can get most just by subscribing to the one and only optional sub, 1650 premuim currency for every month subbed for $15/month. Without further cash shop purchases P2W.

Then call a objectively P2W Korean game. That gimp you at every corner. Until you ~mass~ purchase the cash shop options to not be inconvieniced. And also have 3 optional Subs adding up to around $60/month, one of which is close to being mandatory if you plan on getting into PvP. That also sells the option to have much higher chances of getting gear for 10k - 100k and up. That makes gear so over powering. That no matter how much of a god mechanically at the game you are. If you don't have the gear you automatically lose, not P2W.  You might be special, yeah let us go with that.

Far as the other forums goes. I did not say anything racist. Everything that I spoke about Korean MMOs and Grinders was and is still true. You and other however multiple times flamed and slandered me. Simply because my posts was not to you guys liking. However many others over there, did agree with me on most things.

Lol really gonna miss the old forums, kept me company at work, good to know a bunch of the regulars are here now. 

Fearless downtalks and negative Nancy's a lot, but tbh, maybe the world need people like that? Idk tryna shift my perspective lol. He mentioned Equalized PvP -- that's where T1 comes into place at the moment, yes?...so yeah, if the devs can nail T1's -- there's the equalized PvP content. Really rough around the edges right now, hopefully things can get ironed out.

Sheet and all hidden stats should all be carefully capped. These bonus damage modifying accessories should be disabled in T1 if equalization is the goal. Least how I see it, imo. Good to see you here Bones

"3 optional Subs adding up to around $60/month, one of which is close to being mandatory if you plan on getting into PvP"

You use the word 'optional' then say it's mandatory? Oh wait, "close to" mandatory. Idk if you know what you're talking about. In NA, you just pre-order those. Value Pack is the only one you need to buy and many mmos have a monthly payment. I was totally F2P at a time. You can forgo the VP, stock up on resources to sell, use the 1 day loyalty VP like once every couple of weeks to sell in bulk. Horse stacking allows you to grind endlessly with the load of free maids I have. Weight is a non issue with the loyalties weight purchase (free) and Finto Juice + leveling strength. Pets, so many are free that getting 5 T2's and up is easily had by F2P. On NA, you just pre order Kama Bless and Old Moons, they fill in a few days.

"That no matter how much of a god mechanically at the game you are. If you don't have the gear you automatically lose, not P2W."

Which is why people PvP with people their own gear range as they progress and why T1 NW should be improved. It let's them get their feet wet and that's your "Equalized PvP". You mad because you can't RBF? Lul? You show your strength in RBF, is not candy land hand hold merry go rounds. It's the content we gear up for, that and siege, higher node wars, more lucrative grind zones, better open world, or just the joy of progression in general. You mad because you get stomped in the open world? Lul? Swap server maybe? Don't be jerk to others maybe? Idk what you're doing wrong if you're getting ganked around every corner like you made it to be in the old forum x'D

Apology accepted, thank you! I apologize if I crossed you the wrong way. I will try to communicate better. 

First off I think kicking someone out of a spot or worst, feeding them to NPCs to force them to regress. Is a win or victory in most peoples book. More so when we are talking about a game with Forced Open World PvP. Even with 265AP and 315DP on my Witch or Ranger I can't even touch Star's End. here is why. I go to start grinding not even 20 mintues later I'm being engaged by a S-tier 1v1 PvP class "DFS" of course I declines because the fight is already decided. What Happens next you ask? They proceed to try to feed me to mobs. I am not even in the main rotation. I'm at temple rotation. Same thing in the spots that have Potion pieces.  So yes I fully believe that people that P2W gear directly and indirectly affects other far more than you guys claim.

Even in the other forums, it's been like what about 9 or month months since I've complained about whales or P2W. I've accepted the fact that BDO is just another KMMO, that just happens to have amazing visuals and fast paced combat system. There have been times where I server swap into another group of players that outclass and outgear on the incoming channel. Usually at that point I just concede that I won't be playing BDO that night and go play something else. However it's got to the point it was everyday.

When I inquired about it on the other forums. I was pretty much told too bad, it's how it is. If I stay after someone killed me I'm the griefer. So at that point I started to highlight that in many other posts I made. Because if that's how it is. Then people should have a right to know what's in store for them. Anyways moving on.

You continue to say that the game could be better. I know the game could be better I was playing it 4 to 8 hour days in 2017 and 2018 before costume melting became a thing. And completely killed PvP for me in BDO. That was ok I can PvE and go PvP on ESO or GW2. However as time progressed and they added more and more inconveniences. Then turned around to sell the conveniences. It started to spill over into my PvE. I put up with it till to end of mid 2020 which was the beginning of my breaking point.

At this point from personal experience with many other Korean MMOs. BDO is on the downward spiral. Here is why I say that. Outside of buying massive cash shop goods, and having a account with a boosted luck seed. There is objectively no halfway decent catchup mechanics in this game. Not even full PEN Tuvala gear help new players bridge the gap. And that is the strongest Non Cash Shop, Non RNG, psuedo-catchup mechanic this game has. Even in T1 Node Wars which is suposed to be the pinnacle of introductional PvP for beginners. Which are instantly blapped by others in T1 Twink gear. Then they added even more stronger and harder to naturally get gear in the form of Black Star and Death God gear. Widen the gap to the point new player should not apply to this game at this point, if they are looking to PvP. Because soon as they get 3 step forward the developers take the Whales and Vets 10 steps forwards. 

I honestly don't think with the current business model, nor the push to make the gear gap even bigger. New would be PvPers should even think about playing this game. They are objectively better off playing a New Player friendly MMO like ESO or GW2. Where the Whales can not gain a distinct advantage in PvP over them. Where PvP is practically equalized for the most part. Where player skill can overcome 3 or 4 bad gamers at the same time in Top Tier META gear.  But if I'm to be honest I think the MMO genre is one of the worst genres to be looking for good PvP in.

No.

The real solution to stat capped PvP in BDO is to make it an actual cap on everything imaginable. And to make it so that you can just walz in with your normal endgame gear and it automatically just limits all your stats to the maximum.

This is how it should work. Period.

Funny how you write a whole novel yet fail to address this simple point:

What about the BiS weaponry exclusively locked behind the cash shop in ESO, making it blatantly P2W, ruining your whole fair Western games vs evil P2W Korean games propaganda.

You mean the simple point where in ESO. I could let a complete baddie borrow, my max out ESO account with all the gear and bells and whistles. While I take my alt account that is not even CP yet that don’t have ESO plus or any of the DLCs. Fight said baddie player and win a minimal of 16 out of 20 fights. So much for being P2W!

Where in BDO a 700 GS dude who has P2W all their gear. Could give their account to a friend that’s a complete baddie.

Take a 500 GS account and have all the experience in this game. And would lose 20 out of 20 fights. So much for not being P2W RNG gearbased game!

You're still dodging the fact that BiS weaponry in ESO is exclusively locked behind the cash shop.

But it's ok I guess, the truth is unpleasant for you so you serve us more and more bs to cover it.

I mean the keywords "Is ESO P2W" only yield 300k results in Google ROFL.

I actually directly addressed your statement about that. And countered it with the BDO equivalent. You are just baiting a response out of me that'll get my account suspended. And I'm not going to bit.

The fact remains. In ESO BIS gear does not equal a automatic win against entry level gear, not even talking about softcap stuff. Like it does in BDO. In ESO a CP 160 player in not even fully upgraded crafted gear, can and do curbstomp players that have 810CPs and fully upgraded BiS META gear. 

Can a player in BDO at softcap with TET Boss gear and TRI yellow accessories do the same against a players in fully upgraded PEN Blackstar and PEN Death God gear? 

There is your answer again, but this time in very basic easy to understand terms.

Thanks for acknowledging the fact that BiS and exclusive weaponry in ESO is locked behind the cash shop.

Funny how you don't even try to deny it when called out yet desesperatedly hide it when producing your racist propaganda.

Additionally, you try so hard to deny that ESO is P2W yet conveniently dodge the fact that inputting "Is ESO P2W" in Google yields hundreds of thousands of results.