Can you show me where PA has said in the past that they won't ever add FS to T10? That might change my entire position if was a definite statement, as opposed to a "we're not considering it at this time" thing. 

But yes, so much in bdo is a lottery. The benefit to entering earlier than others is the gamble to get something earlier than others and use it longer. But the downside is the gamble to not get it. 

On the lifeskill note, I think there's other ways to reward players. Such as a skill requiring professional, artisan, or even master training to use, like with sailing. Failstacks on t10 isn't really a reward for being invested in the lifeskill, since anyone could get them with minimal investment in that. 

100% want this too
give veteran players also good changes dont forget your old playerbase who invested time and helped u grow to the state u are in !

I'd love to see this implemented.

Back in the day the royal fern root daily required us to catch specific tier of horse for different training level, sometimes it can take a few server swaps to find the right tier. And each T10 attempt is 10x of that plus the silver for the materials that you can simply buy off the market plus the extra work for materials that are hard to buy. That's a lot of effort for a single attempt.

Getting a T10 has been considered as an achievement because of how hard to get, most people did not expect PA to make it way easier. Spending 300 hours on catching horses to reach guru training only gets you 1 extra attempt in 100 days compared with a master trainer. The imperial steed is probably the only change that reward people who are into training horses, but they are also pretty rare. All these point us to think T10 will remain as hard to get and there is no point to save the attempts for future changes that probably won't come in another few years. It would be heartbreaking if someone just failed a bunch of attempts right before they see the fs system being announced.

I'd like to provide some estimates on how many people are affected. 

Assume master training and ignore the royal fern roots from events. We get 30/7+6 ~ 10.29 fern roots per day on average and hence around 365/(100/10.29) ~ 38 attempts per year (even though now the feather is equally as bottleneck as the roots). The probability that you fail the entire year of effort is 0.97^38, which is around 31.4%. The probability that you fail two years of effort is 0.97^76, which is around 9.88%, probably higher percentage then the people who have failed two years straight and yet still haven't given up.

Yes please!

Do not make them retroactive it is unneeded.  You knew the risks when you tapped before you should not then be rewarded for those risks after the fact retroactively. 

Being lazy has again paid off for me!  I have never understood the Korean Gaming idea that grinding something crazy hard and getting nothing for your efforts is considered a "fun" game mechanic (looking at you, developers).

Devs are supposed to avoid "I QUIT!" moments in gameplay.  Handing an advantage to "new" players while ignoring already committed players who've dedicated time and money (and time is money) is a bad way to manage your game.

But who am I talking to.  What else can I expect from Pearl Abyss who stole $200 from my spouse a few years back and threatened to ban him if he chargebacked it.  They only just kept our business by being a step better than Sony (who stole $600 from us once and we don't even have a Playstation account) by giving him equivilant Pearl Shop currency in exchange for the theft (he didn't buy Pearls, we actually have no idea where that $200 went aside from PA's pockets).

They call themselves a North American company but they act like an Asiatic company.

It's not a high horse; it's rational thought. You go to a casino and play slots. You play 60 games over whatever period of time. The casino announces that at a future date soon players will have an improved chance to win at slots. Are you then entitled to improved odds over the new one simply because you played before? Entitled to compensation for having played when the odds were at the normal value? Every casino in the world would laugh you out the door at such a suggestion, even if didn't cost them money. 

It's gambling. You make a risk knowing that you can lose, that the resources you bet can be lost. Are those resources wasted? In the sense that all losses in gambling are wasted, sure, but you make the choice. You make a risk hoping you win. 

To be honest, I think retroactive failstacks would be great. I take issue with the attitude and language most such suggestions have been made with. You are not entitled to them, nor deserve them. PA is not insulting you by not giving them to you, not slapping you in the face. PA is not being unfair or rude to you. You have not unduly suffered in your failed gambles. 

You keep forgetting, and need to continually be reminded, that the price of gambling is losing time and resources for a chance at winning. Nobody is forcing you to make that gamble, and expecting compensation for those failed gambles is the height of entitlement. 

If they have no click history, let them make the training level useful.

If you are guru 1 you have + 0.2% fs on the T10

If you are guru 10, you have 2 % etc

Those who did a lot of T10 try ended up with a lot of training levels so make them profitable

Everyone who has played this game long enough is well aware how gambling works. No need to act patronizing.

You are oversimplifying failstacking. It is not to be superficially compared to a "failed gamble" or improved odds at a casino. Ordinary gambling leaves you nothing in return if you fail. Failstacks have real, cumulative value; they are an investment and provide immediate return. That is the value that players unfairly missed out on if there is no retroactive coverage, because PA falsely communicated that there was no FS system planned for t10s. I don't feel it is entitled for players to have some kind of compensation because of that.

Please, make it happen