#Suggestions
#Community Support
Make The T10 Failstacks Retroactive
Jul 14, 2023, 06:16 (UTC)
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# 31
On: Jul 14, 2023, 18:20 (UTC), Written by Warriors
If they have no click history, let them make the training level useful.
If you are guru 1 you have + 0.2% fs on the T10
If you are guru 10, you have 2 % etc
Those who did a lot of T10 try ended up with a lot of training levels so make them profitable
This sounds nice as a side update, but not so great as compensation. I'm sure there are many people that have done a lot of clicks, but do not have Guru 10 yet.
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Jul 16, 2023, 07:38 (UTC)
# 32
On: Jul 14, 2023, 18:20 (UTC), Written by Warriors
If they have no click history, let them make the training level useful.
If you are guru 1 you have + 0.2% fs on the T10
If you are guru 10, you have 2 % etc
Those who did a lot of T10 try ended up with a lot of training levels so make them profitable
If they did this, it would be a great qol for trainers. I remember making a post about it, but PA never responded + this update seems more for the general community then rewarding trainers content, sadly. Why I think it's a possibility PA could make the fs retroactive is because they did it with t9s, implementing previous failures.
Regarding the data itself, if they never stored it, it would be nice to have communication from the devs just to know that.
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Jul 16, 2023, 13:53 (UTC)
# 33
Why it's not in the feedback board yet???? Feedbacks with less comments and likes are there already but not this one... lol
No surprise feedback board is gonna get reworked since it clearly doesn't work as it should
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Jul 17, 2023, 08:20 (UTC)
# 34
The only way to get T10 is through dailies/weeklies. For many people who love the training lifeskill it was/is a goal to reach. There is no other way to get these horses than to "gamble". You can't work toward it any other way... You can't compare it to any other thing to get in BDO. A steady 3% chance locked behind dailies and weeklies. It is simply a matter of time and luck. And that's what sucks. (Grateful new people attempting will atleast see their chances increase now with failstacks.)
The FESTA announcement of a "training" treasure item called Krogdalo's stall and the colored title "Cosmic Horse Whisperer" is just rubbing salt in that wound. To get the treasure item you need all 3 T10...It is a new goal for trainers to reach. And it's AGAIN locked behind dailies/weeklies. Dailies and weeklies that for some have resulted in nothing for 2.5 years ...
When T10 pega was announced in 2020 I leveled training for around 400h. Just to get guru in time for T10 release on EU, for that 1 extra fern per day. 2.5y later I am 101 T10 clicks in and no closer to getting a T10 than when I started.
Now with this announcement about "Training" treasure item Krogdalo stall and title ... Another thing I can not work toward while being a horse trainer. I can only do these dailies and weeklies again.
Even if people did get retroactive fs it wouldn't even do much harm. Since that is fs for "only" 1 T10. Many people who have failed repeatedly could probably have multiple T10 if those attempts had been made with the new FS changes.
I am not sure why people are against retroactive fs... Some are against it because they say it's not possible they kept track of attempts. But then again what is the harm in trying?
The FESTA announcement of a "training" treasure item called Krogdalo's stall and the colored title "Cosmic Horse Whisperer" is just rubbing salt in that wound. To get the treasure item you need all 3 T10...It is a new goal for trainers to reach. And it's AGAIN locked behind dailies/weeklies. Dailies and weeklies that for some have resulted in nothing for 2.5 years ...
When T10 pega was announced in 2020 I leveled training for around 400h. Just to get guru in time for T10 release on EU, for that 1 extra fern per day. 2.5y later I am 101 T10 clicks in and no closer to getting a T10 than when I started.
Now with this announcement about "Training" treasure item Krogdalo stall and title ... Another thing I can not work toward while being a horse trainer. I can only do these dailies and weeklies again.
Even if people did get retroactive fs it wouldn't even do much harm. Since that is fs for "only" 1 T10. Many people who have failed repeatedly could probably have multiple T10 if those attempts had been made with the new FS changes.
I am not sure why people are against retroactive fs... Some are against it because they say it's not possible they kept track of attempts. But then again what is the harm in trying?
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Jul 17, 2023, 12:22 (UTC)
# 35
Please PA look into this, this will reward the efforts these players put.
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Jul 17, 2023, 12:56 (UTC)
# 36
On: Jul 14, 2023, 06:16 (UTC), Written by Kurosity
Family Name: Kurosity
Region (NA/EU): NA
Suggestions/Comments:
On behalf of members of the horse community: make the t10 failstacks that are soon to-be implemented into our region apply previous data of failures to the stack.
Why:
We have some members with no t10 yet and are 60,80,100+ fails in. While we understand that receiving this many failures is inevitible in statistics, it's harsh to ask those who have dedicated hundred of hours to horses in addition to failing for roughly two years to start at day 1 with people who have not touched horse content.
I believe it's important to recognize that many of us asking this do not want people to suffer unnecessarily. We want trainers content to reflect the effort we have provided in this game, especially for one of the only time gaited contents.
As a closing, I would like to thank PA for bringing new hope to our horse community. Introducing failstacks gave some of us a reason to love horses again; but we ask you to please think of those still struggling too, not just the future strugglers.
Edit: I would aso like to highlight another post suggesting this that I failed to see - please support both!
On behalf of members of the horse community: make the t10 failstacks that are soon to-be implemented into our region apply previous data of failures to the stack.
Why:
We have some members with no t10 yet and are 60,80,100+ fails in. While we understand that receiving this many failures is inevitible in statistics, it's harsh to ask those who have dedicated hundred of hours to horses in addition to failing for roughly two years to start at day 1 with people who have not touched horse content.
I believe it's important to recognize that many of us asking this do not want people to suffer unnecessarily. We want trainers content to reflect the effort we have provided in this game, especially for one of the only time gaited contents.
As a closing, I would like to thank PA for bringing new hope to our horse community. Introducing failstacks gave some of us a reason to love horses again; but we ask you to please think of those still struggling too, not just the future strugglers.
Edit: I would aso like to highlight another post suggesting this that I failed to see - please support both!
I disagree.
The audacity of this post is wild.
This arugument was used on the cron stone change for outfits. Nobody got extra crons for what they purchased perviously.
This argument was used on the artisan memory improvements (this one was huge). Nobody got extra failstacks for previously purchased Artisans Memory items.
This argument was used on the central marketplace changes, when it went from silver bids to uniform order bids. Nobody got refunds of silver for the items they overpaid for.
You are not going to see sympathy from PA on this, you gambled, and you lost. Just because they are now giving a gift to everyone does not mean you should be mad, you share in this benefit.
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Jul 17, 2023, 13:31 (UTC)
# 37
On: Jul 17, 2023, 12:56 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad
I disagree.
The audacity of this post is wild.
This arugument was used on the cron stone change for outfits. Nobody got extra crons for what they purchased perviously.
This argument was used on the artisan memory improvements (this one was huge). Nobody got extra failstacks for previously purchased Artisans Memory items.
This argument was used on the central marketplace changes, when it went from silver bids to uniform order bids. Nobody got refunds of silver for the items they overpaid for.
You are not going to see sympathy from PA on this, you gambled, and you lost. Just because they are now giving a gift to everyone does not mean you should be mad, you share in this benefit.
That's fine, you're allowed to have your opinion just as we have ours. -`♡´-
Though I know you copy pasted this, I think it would be good to read the post and some comments; I explained we feel positive about the failstack system, and 100 can fails happen even with one in place!
Also, just to point out - t9 failstacks were added retroactively. It isn't necessarily based in fiction here. Regardless, if PA cannot or will not do this, we would just like some communication from PA.
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Jul 17, 2023, 15:10 (UTC)
# 38
lmao. No.
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Jul 17, 2023, 16:32 (UTC)
# 39
On: Jul 17, 2023, 08:20 (UTC), Written by Skooti
The only way to get T10 is through dailies/weeklies. For many people who love the training lifeskill it was/is a goal to reach. There is no other way to get these horses than to "gamble". You can't work toward it any other way... You can't compare it to any other thing to get in BDO. A steady 3% chance locked behind dailies and weeklies. It is simply a matter of time and luck. And that's what sucks. (Grateful new people attempting will atleast see their chances increase now with failstacks.)
The FESTA announcement of a "training" treasure item called Krogdalo's stall and the colored title "Cosmic Horse Whisperer" is just rubbing salt in that wound. To get the treasure item you need all 3 T10...It is a new goal for trainers to reach. And it's AGAIN locked behind dailies/weeklies. Dailies and weeklies that for some have resulted in nothing for 2.5 years ...
When T10 pega was announced in 2020 I leveled training for around 400h. Just to get guru in time for T10 release on EU, for that 1 extra fern per day. 2.5y later I am 101 T10 clicks in and no closer to getting a T10 than when I started.
Now with this announcement about "Training" treasure item Krogdalo stall and title ... Another thing I can not work toward while being a horse trainer. I can only do these dailies and weeklies again.
Even if people did get retroactive fs it wouldn't even do much harm. Since that is fs for "only" 1 T10. Many people who have failed repeatedly could probably have multiple T10 if those attempts had been made with the new FS changes.
I am not sure why people are against retroactive fs... Some are against it because they say it's not possible they kept track of attempts. But then again what is the harm in trying?
The FESTA announcement of a "training" treasure item called Krogdalo's stall and the colored title "Cosmic Horse Whisperer" is just rubbing salt in that wound. To get the treasure item you need all 3 T10...It is a new goal for trainers to reach. And it's AGAIN locked behind dailies/weeklies. Dailies and weeklies that for some have resulted in nothing for 2.5 years ...
When T10 pega was announced in 2020 I leveled training for around 400h. Just to get guru in time for T10 release on EU, for that 1 extra fern per day. 2.5y later I am 101 T10 clicks in and no closer to getting a T10 than when I started.
Now with this announcement about "Training" treasure item Krogdalo stall and title ... Another thing I can not work toward while being a horse trainer. I can only do these dailies and weeklies again.
Even if people did get retroactive fs it wouldn't even do much harm. Since that is fs for "only" 1 T10. Many people who have failed repeatedly could probably have multiple T10 if those attempts had been made with the new FS changes.
I am not sure why people are against retroactive fs... Some are against it because they say it's not possible they kept track of attempts. But then again what is the harm in trying?
With your training level and those sad 101 failed attempts, none of those clueless players voting against it has a say, hope you get your FS and T10s.
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Jul 17, 2023, 17:07 (UTC)
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