in view of that PA I delete not only the comments but the entire publication and they already go 9 times that it does. Why are you so interested in silencing the issue of DR vs evasion? it is as if PA hides something or strives to make players support evasion for them to earn more money, since the most played classes currently and the most goals in pvp are EVASION. What a coincidence, right?  Here I will leave some examples

This GS will not allow you to tank as they do the evasion in massive but at least you can have a chance to heal or leave




This other is the one I currently have and I can say with absolute basis from my own experience that in massive I have not even taken out the weapon and I am already dead. When I have seen evasions leave them AFK in the middle of a massive GVG of more than 40 people

Why does it cost so much for DR's voice to be heard? Why do they keep saying that DR is broken when the truth is as clear as water? Even in the sun today I still hear people say that DR is rubbish and they are not just any people. They are people with more than 740 gs.  When they go down from the clouds to evasion users who abuse a mechanism that is clearly extremely broken. not to mention that dr build is ASTRONOMICALLY expensive.  why do I say so? Here I step to leave another example


Example: 
You want to be a tank in a massive? Then you need this minimum. that if, say goodbye to all your damage

What build does an evasion user need to highlight or kill a DR end game user?

this is all it takes for an evasion user to counter any DR user to anyone and I'm not exaggerating when I say any DR user
Use a berserker as an example. But use a striker or mistyc or hashashin and we'll see the difference.

PD: For those who want to be funny or know everything. If you are going to object to my reasoning, do it intelligently with evidence or at least with common sense and valid arguments. Don't just write like monkeys what you believe

THANK YOU.

Because you asking for wrong changes, nothing going to change if PA not shamed, to shame PA  ask for combat logs, DRvsEvasion issue will be fixed in 24h with emergyncy maintenance when people will see combat logs and shame PA, only way to force changes is shaming.

Evasion Shai goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
You are dead!

That eva build lmao change the belt to centaurs. Also earrings are wrong for the player to do damage, one pen dawn an one pen disto with two pen tungrad rings minimum not using c20 muskans and also no duo dahns evasion. Off hand is completely wrong.  

Minimum requirements:

This is so the person can use kutum to grind

Real recommended requirements:

Should probably add use sicils for neck if needed but you aint going to have ap so this is a ook middle ground.

 But you do you boo.

Edit: eva deffinitley doesnt afk in a ball isnt possible especially when casters multiple of them specifically will shred 1400 eva... Idk man the post you displayed for eva is hybrid just like the ones i linked you aint ,both arent tanking nothing in NW an siege. Also i will mention one thing full evasion do no damage an maybe tanky but still get flattend i will link full eva build here tomorrow which will tank some damage but will still get one tapped by specific classes. Watch a sage against eva aswell.

To answer why your post was removed you were extremely toxic towards members of the community. Well also antagonizing said members of the community thats without being a cm or gm you should already know this, you targeted one of the worst scaling eva classes because of low acc an you knew this. But you still made up a story about said class well antagonizing them.

What were you expecting. When a class has been nerfed twice this year (deffinitley shouldnt have been the second time)an multiple times last year i think that class should be allowed to be defensive since they have lost major tools from their kit well you have no idea how their kit works you try explaining to them how their own kit works without even knowing the classes functions or how it plays. Especially spinning in a ball only one class can do this its a succession class to which it is his 200%.

Everything is about Meta, The Meta shifted to an even heavier evasion phase, we have to build to counter what most of your opponent use,
you are not supposed to ask the game to do the work of adaptation for you, that not playing, When people stack DR, we focus AP, when people Focus Eva, we focus Accuracy, When people focus Accuracy, we focus DR. And class play a role in by how much you are have to adapt to the gear meta.

Learn, Adapt, Overcome. Tag are cheap, Accuracy Accessory are not.
For most meta class, accuracy offhand is quite enough.

BDO is not Tekken, there are no need of fair fight in a 1v1 scenario.  You must adapt to your opponent choice.

DR is fine, It's just not the current meta.

^This, i believe DR will be tuned soon anyway

For Girask a true evasion build looks like:

https://garmoth.com/character/1mYTXP4Yrk

The second tab with lebraska helm is to show you that eva can use both an this one is personal preference as their is other green helms to but afaik taritas is Bis for full eva. But people prefer labreska because of its HP an balance between DR an Eva.

Also yeah nah you aint going to tank still with this on Kuno at least  as there is alot of classes with eva shred an i know awaken zerk with proper gearing will one combo this. The classes who can use this  are Shai(lol she still gets removed is recommended for siege for her to be useful), mystic, striker 

Can try: Sorc, hash(doesnt have eva buffs but someone can correct me on this),kuno, Ninja ,maegu and other classes who utilize a eva % skill

Out side of them you aint tanking nothing.

For why each piece is chosen after the helmet:

Hesus is BiS rings for eva afaik as its the only ring to give eva. Someone can correct me but afaik its still best.

Ethereals well you should already know they are BiS for tank builds in general.

Centaurs is hands down best evasion to loss of ap for accessories. 

River neck BiS for both eva and DR currently

Tadd of hand because thats kunos evasion offhand which gives best all around evasion to ap. Not kutum. Kutum is a hybrids offhand because they want to keep accuracy.

Also total evasion is 1532 that is with haetaes an BiS evasion crystals.

Some subjects I would prefer to discuss in discord this is one of them. This won't be short and it will take some time and posts to discuss.

Ok 1st things 1st I am one of your 735gs players (both on evasion/dr), 7 years and little to no break in BDO. I have also posted a lot over the years in the forums.

So let's jump into this mess.

1st thing I would like to change is wording I realize this is just a nuance but after you read my approach it may change some minds.

Dr build I would like to Delete from use all together it is very deceptive and misleading in our specific use the change should be this DR BUILD(BEHGS)=Accuracy build.

Thus a simple change becomes Accuracy Build Vs Evasion Build.

Why you ask? it defines and sets parameters for what your trying to accomplish.

At end game ALL classes (even tank) benifit from evasion BUT only some classes have passives that allow for extended benefits thus the whole premise was born. Evasion Class vs Dr Class. 

We desperately need to get away from this use. Especially at end game Literally we are talking ~75 evasion and ~25 dr that seperate the builds. Both the evasion as well as the dr can be had via house buffs and gems to basically make both builds the same. 

The one thing that seperates the build is in fact Accuracy which at high end is much harder to obtain without effecting your damage. Obviously the higher the accuracy the lower your damage (i.e. dawns,turos,lunar).

That said starts to bring into focus a few things. DR builds can't survive, of course not they were not ment too. accuracy builds are ment to kill. I.E. glass cannon.

We're if you have a pure evasion build to a non accuracy based build (or a below end game) you become a God and can't be killed.

We're to counter a accuracy based build you will need more DR I.E. a higher DR Evasion Build.

Super fast, high crit, high avg skill accuracy  would benifit from a higher accuracy build. These classes also tend to have higher damage skills (musa,zerker,meahwa,Dk) so on shread evasion heavy classes.

In no way should you jump on a Dr heavy build add in things like Dr accessories and expect to survive when you are getting hit 100% of the time with sub 800 accuracy that can be obtained in a 600-650 gs. The issue is damage mitigation by using all available assets 

At end game you will need BOTH evasion and DR and learn how to adjust your stats by gemmimg and swaping gear to meet the needs of the battlefield. It's not hard to tell the difference from what your fighting as well as be realistic to what your hoping to accomplish.

No one build can tank 30 players in a GVG unless your fighting all 600gs players with a 740gs evasion build.(on a striker, mystic or shai) once everyone crosses the 900 accuracy threshold you will get wrecked. At that point is were you need to learn your class and placement on the battlefield then it becomes a issue of what class is best suited and the one your on may not be.

I assure you of this, I play both a Succ meagu AND a Succ Valkryie BOTH are using the same build with some twist, both use Muskans and leaburs.

My meagu with its higher evasion passive uses blurr and an evasion offhand in heavy GVG with gemming to utilize Dr AND evasion when GS of avg players start to exceed 700gs i.e. most RBF or siege guild open world GVG. While on the other hand I utilize more accuracy AND damage modifiers were possible (lightstone stomping,with down attack damage gems) or back attack depending on situation but again it depends on who your fighting.

My Valk uses same set except I use Hp/untouchable lightstones with more accuracy gemmming as well as hooms/vipers so on. This allows me to benifit from my accuracy buff that valks get while still being able to tank hits.. adding a few evasion+ add ons instead of DR ones and most people still get misses on my Valk. 

Trust me when I say this my Valk is VERY TANKY with a evasion build.

So wrapping this post up by moving the wording away from DR BUILD to Accuracy build gives a better idea of what is happening. You will need to understand your gear and gemming a bit better when your DP hits end game. 

Then it becomes a matter of how to play your class to fit what your trying to accomplish. 

Omitting your answer above a bit since I will not go into details with you because we have been talking for a while on several topics. What the succession does or the succession is not my business. I just play Awakening

I understand your point and it's not about adapting the world to my needs. It is about exposing the clear advantage that users of evasion have. this is not a self-improvement game and I know that MMORPGs are precisely unfair in nature. But this already exceeds everything.

But we are living a stage where even evasion does a better job than Dr. That is, I have seen many DR users switch to evasion and it works much better. Even I in the past tried it and the difference was abysmal