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DR Buff when?
Jul 18, 2023, 04:03 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 18, 2023, 23:07 (UTC)
# 21
On: Jul 18, 2023, 13:50 (UTC), Written by Girask

Omitting your answer above a bit since I will not go into details with you because we have been talking for a while on several topics. What the succession does or the succession is not my business. I just play Awakening

I recommend talking to Viaadlucem in game or Meltmetor(think i spelt that correctly the play drak an was on woosa an some other classes), Popspolar all three are very tanky on DR classes an i can tell you with a war popspolar had at least 5 or more people on him to get him down.

Viaadlucem i have known for a bit an can say for sure in war that they have really good knowledge on gear an also was struggle for us to kill to.  No im not being condescending i know that these guys lasts more than one combo actually it would be some thing like 5 going by hp bar, with these 3 i pretty much have to inf combo which randomly bugs out, so i gave up on that kuno combo cause of my latency worked with kaokao cant do it now because of latency is to random. Which could also be whats happening for you but i wont comment to much on as i would have to show you how to check your latency.

If your latency is high dont expect to be tanky in any build as you wil have the following issues:

Protections work part of animations or not at all

Downsmashs not working at all

Other peoples movement be teleporting on skills that shouldnt be 

There is more but this one you have to figure out your self as you need to use resource monitor in windows go to network and then tcp connections under latency anything over 160ms is bad an will be your issue. You want to be under 100ms for a better gameplay. Your latency will jump around an certian conditions in game can make it higher.

Last Edit : Jul 18, 2023, 23:47 (UTC)
# 22
On: Jul 18, 2023, 23:05 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

I recommend talking to Viaadlucem in game or Meltmetor(think i spelt that correctly the play drak an was on woosa an some other classes), Popspolar all three are very tanky on DR classes an i can tell you with a war popspolar had at least 5 or more people on him to get him down.

Viaadlucem i have known for a bit an can say for sure in war that they have really good knowledge on gear an also was struggle for us to kill to.  No im not being condescending i know that these guys lasts more than one combo actually it would be some thing like 5 going by hp bar, with these 3 i pretty much have to inf combo which randomly bugs out, so i gave up on that kuno combo cause of my latency worked with kaokao cant do it now because of latency is to random. Which could also be whats happening for you but i wont comment to much on as i would have to show you how to check your latency.

If your latency is high dont expect to be tanky in any build as you wil have the following issues:

Protections work part of animations or not at all

Downsmashs not working at all

Other peoples movement be teleporting on skills that shouldnt be 

There is more but this one you have to figure out your self as you need to use resource monitor in windows go to network and then tcp connections under latency anything over 160ms is bad an will be your issue. You want to be under 100ms for a better gameplay. Your latency will jump around an certian conditions in game can make it higher.

100% correct on the latency, this is and will be a major issue especially if your in the 150-200 Ms.

Usually I will try and get people into exit lag if they are having internet issues.

If @Girask your needing some help exitlag has a 3 day free trial anyone that is around or outside 80+ ms round trip should look at using it. I personally have been using exit lag for about 2 years and it has helped a ton

Other VPN services are available but stick to the ones for gaming if possible.

Last Edit : Jul 19, 2023, 22:46 (UTC)
# 23
On: Jul 18, 2023, 23:46 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

100% correct on the latency, this is and will be a major issue especially if your in the 150-200 Ms.

Usually I will try and get people into exit lag if they are having internet issues.

If @Girask your needing some help exitlag has a 3 day free trial anyone that is around or outside 80+ ms round trip should look at using it. I personally have been using exit lag for about 2 years and it has helped a ton

Other VPN services are available but stick to the ones for gaming if possible.

Who is talking about latency? I'm talking about dr is garbage and evasion is for immortals. I do not know why they insist on saying that dr is the same as evasion when everyone says otherwise. The only ones who won't say that are drm users I've never read a dr user say. Dr is better than avoidance. I've never heard it because that's not true. If you don't ask a ranger what she thinks of Dr. Literally the ap rangers have breakfast at the dr

Last Edit : Jul 19, 2023, 23:32 (UTC)
# 24

What if they rework DR where higher numbers decreases crit rate in pvp?

Last Edit : Jul 20, 2023, 03:09 (UTC)
# 25
On: Jul 19, 2023, 23:32 (UTC), Written by Ghoulz

What if they rework DR where higher numbers decreases crit rate in pvp?

The problem is that when I talk about Buff Dr the evasions are offended. They believe that we are attacking them directly and do not provide a coherent solution to the problem. In this game the DP is a joke and who depends a lot on the DP? Yes. DR users. A trial can easily kill someone from 401 DP. with only 279 and that should never happen, the solution is either they divide the classes so they are evasion and dr and they do a rework to dr. or they simply upload the cap of dr. because currently it is extremely difficult and very expensive to scale DR and maintain damage

Last Edit : Jul 20, 2023, 04:52 (UTC)
# 26
On: Jul 20, 2023, 03:09 (UTC), Written by Girask

The problem is that when I talk about Buff Dr the evasions are offended. They believe that we are attacking them directly and do not provide a coherent solution to the problem. In this game the DP is a joke and who depends a lot on the DP? Yes. DR users. A trial can easily kill someone from 401 DP. with only 279 and that should never happen, the solution is either they divide the classes so they are evasion and dr and they do a rework to dr. or they simply upload the cap of dr. because currently it is extremely difficult and very expensive to scale DR and maintain damage

The rest I leave to you

To debate, you have to bring evidence. Here I bring my proofs. I know it's not a super team end game. But the test is being done with a simple trial character who is not even using perfume or buff.

ranger awk 279 ap no buff. 
https://youtu.be/J-QNbjpomfs

Last Edit : Jul 20, 2023, 06:09 (UTC)
# 27
On: Jul 20, 2023, 04:52 (UTC), Written by Girask

The rest I leave to you

To debate, you have to bring evidence. Here I bring my proofs. I know it's not a super team end game. But the test is being done with a simple trial character who is not even using perfume or buff.

ranger awk 279 ap no buff. 
https://youtu.be/J-QNbjpomfs

If this was a 401dp evasion class, Trial Awk Ranger would kill it probably even faster! Bad example...

Last Edit : Jul 20, 2023, 06:31 (UTC)
# 28
On: Jul 20, 2023, 03:09 (UTC), Written by Girask

The problem is that when I talk about Buff Dr the evasions are offended. They believe that we are attacking them directly and do not provide a coherent solution to the problem. In this game the DP is a joke and who depends a lot on the DP? Yes. DR users. A trial can easily kill someone from 401 DP. with only 279 and that should never happen, the solution is either they divide the classes so they are evasion and dr and they do a rework to dr. or they simply upload the cap of dr. because currently it is extremely difficult and very expensive to scale DR and maintain damage

Idk why are you so vehemently about DR. BDO was always about:

Do you want to feel more tanky? Build DR/Evasion/HP.  -> You get an Evasion set

Do you want to make more damage? Build AP/Accuracy. -> You get DR set

And in my opinion its a really good system, if executed well! But PA didn't....

problems with class balance:

   - Damage class to class modifiers don't make any sense

   - Some classes to way to much damage on lower AP levels (~281AP)

   - You can't choose your class passive

   - There is for no reason a large variety for each classes accruacy on skills, accruacy self-buffs and evasion debuffs (cough.. Sage cough..)

other problems:

   - AP scaling falls of after 305 AP (you are discouraged to stack more AP)

   - Introduced Debos which is basicly next level above PEN Accessories (more easy to hit high levels of AP)

   - Now you can sacrifies AP to get Evasion items (like Centaur Belt or Evasion offhand) which were designed to wear by full DP builds

Therefore some classes do feel for no reason way to tanky if you fight against them with the "wrong" class!

Last Edit : Jul 20, 2023, 06:43 (UTC)
# 29
On: Jul 20, 2023, 06:31 (UTC), Written by SeedofYggdrasil

Idk why are you so vehemently about DR. BDO was always about:

Do you want to feel more tanky? Build DR/Evasion/HP.  -> You get an Evasion set

Do you want to make more damage? Build AP/Accuracy. -> You get DR set

And in my opinion its a really good system, if executed well! But PA didn't....

problems with class balance:

   - Damage class to class modifiers don't make any sense

   - Some classes to way to much damage on lower AP levels (~281AP)

   - You can't choose your class passive

   - There is for no reason a large variety for each classes accruacy on skills, accruacy self-buffs and evasion debuffs (cough.. Sage cough..)

other problems:

   - AP scaling falls of after 305 AP (you are discouraged to stack more AP)

   - Introduced Debos which is basicly next level above PEN Accessories (more easy to hit high levels of AP)

   - Now you can sacrifies AP to get Evasion items (like Centaur Belt or Evasion offhand) which were designed to wear by full DP builds

Therefore some classes do feel for no reason way to tanky if you fight against them with the "wrong" class!


I will leave only 2 newly recorded videos. where I prove that DR is complete rubbish. I understand that those 2 particular classes are duelists and have high damage in 1v1. But they are still simple trial of 279 AP. The test was performed in both without buff and without perfumes.  I understand that it is not a particularly very high DR. But I come back and repeat. are trial. If they were Main with 293 or 301 of AP+ I would understand it perfectly. but they are trial. 

1) ranger test


2) Tamer test

Last Edit : Jul 20, 2023, 06:45 (UTC)
# 30
On: Jul 20, 2023, 06:09 (UTC), Written by SeedofYggdrasil

If this was a 401dp evasion class, Trial Awk Ranger would kill it probably even faster! Bad example...

The example is perfect. Because with a trial it is shown even more that the DR is rubbish.

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