so does it mean if your family is red when you create a new character it will born like a red character ?

Ohh, I hadn't thought of that, but, most likely yeah xD get annihilated by guards as soon as you walk into any town cause you didn't realise you were red xD

Am I the only one who things karma change will lead to more PKs ? Of course if you find anyone now on spot. Casual player like me already almost forgot what is fight for spot, now it seems that BDO will be just single player grinder. So sad.

That would be epic fail from PA.

i think these new players will soon realise who is the real griefer when they start trampling over each others grind zones 

This subject is a super hot topic you have loud voices on both sides of the fence. I mean you ask why would you have to?? This is a earlier post.

I would like to think he was being facetious, but that's the problem here that gets players all wound up.

On one side you have players that intentionally bully others using flagging and decs to remove others from populargrind spots.

Then you have others like Columba that would just walk into an area and start grinding regardless if someone was there (No one person owns a grind spot) and stay even after being flagged and Dec on. Columba will be the 1st to argue that there is no such thing as a Karma bomber. Becouse they have been a Karma Bomber since the day they been playing BDO.

Then claim they were innocent and never flagged one time BUT sure everyone else flagged on them. 

I am completely on the fence the one thing I can agree on is that PA needs to make DRASTIC changes to retain the player base.

But then you have PA do this..

A BLATANT attempt to cash in on the player base... this is ABSOLUTE BS in my opinion and is only going to make things harder on everyone let alone how do you trust that things are finally looking up for BDO then this!!!!

If BDO gets rid of forced PvP they can get rid of the Karma system all together.  If players can only PvP if both are flagged up, then they should both know what they're getting into and accept the outcome.  No need to resort to a system to "punish" the offender if both are the offender.

Like all good bdsm you have to give them a bit of pleasure before the pain. It's like people are not aware what kind of game they play by now :D hehe. 
Regarding karma changes. It's literally a singleplayer game now. All the crybababies who cry karmabombing have a recharchable infinite marni time to be as mathematically efficient as they want to be. But that's not why they hate it. They hate it because karmabombing was never a thing and always a pretext to kill lower geared players while feeling you have the moral superiority. 
Karma and marni changes won't affect me at all since i'll play like always and always flag up and pk the first losers who types "dfs me plz good sir i require thy spot and my gear says i can have it" 
That's my ninja way. *sunglasses* *tips fedora* 

so can i use me level 1 red character to remove my bad karma for example with my level 1 red character i farm grass bettle ?