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Regarding world PvP changes - KR 07/26/23 - "Note from J"
Jul 26, 2023, 23:45 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:03 (UTC)
# 21
On: Jul 27, 2023, 02:48 (UTC), Written by Extra

The usual purepose of one-sided guild decs is usually to attempt to deter griefers at grind spots. Players who are concerned about the change to one-sided war decs do not want an all out PvP festa with no consequences. They want to have the option of being able to defend their spot from griefers. By telling players to go to Arsha you are telling them to go from one form of griefing (players grinding through their rotations or over top of them with no way to stop them without being karma bombed which you can see already on Season and Olvia servers) to another where the griefer comes back over and over again preventing the player from doing any grinding because there are no consequences to PvP on Arsha. 

Yes, Marni realms do provide a way to avoid PvP and griefing, but I think if PA is going to provide so much solo grind time through marni realms, then what is the point of changing the Karma system or changing war decs if the players are never going to be out in the open world to make use of those systems in the first place? They could easily just buff Marni realm time and locations and make PvE focused players happy.

That's interesting. Because an enemy decided to declare war for the opposite reason you claim they're for. Simply to harass us without consequence. 

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:11 (UTC)
# 22

Can i get the name of your guild and the offending guild? Id like to follow up on this claim.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:37 (UTC)
# 23
On: Jul 27, 2023, 06:25 (UTC), Written by zBoo

100 pvpers crying about not being able to grief new players

vs

growing new player base

go play another game, simple choice to me

This is nonsense no high geared player with grief on orcs waste of time for 4 kills and become red lol. Better go on Arsha and do fight endlessly. Now everyone will go on your spot and just ks u for no reason and without consequences and u will not be able to do anything. You will call me out ? Block and report tell me what u gonna do with those changes if I enter on spot which you were first ? Ask me to leave ? I say no and ignore u ? Now what ?

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:21 (UTC)
# 24

Implementing the PA proposed changes in NA/EU will in the long run kill the game.
PA will empower the griefers.

PA will remove the thrill of open world, with player interaction. Making for a boring game, loosing it's uniqueness and the reason most ppl in the first place got into BDO.
And why would we want to play a boring generic game. Im sure we all could find other games that's not empowering griefers and put our money in those games instead. Plenty of other games coming out soon on UE5 will look just as nice.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:41 (UTC)
# 25

this is all thrown out at the same time to mask the cron stone price increase by 50% and p2w potential increase.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:43 (UTC)
# 26
On: Jul 27, 2023, 10:03 (UTC), Written by Ghoulz

That's interesting. Because an enemy decided to declare war for the opposite reason you claim they're for. Simply to harass us without consequence. 

You can give whatever anecdotal you want and reword "contesting your spot / server" to "harrassment" to drag the conversation into your own goalpost - however in the end of the day chances are one of YOUR guildmates harassed someone else, abused the karma / protection system. Now they want to insure your guild can no longer pose a future threat going forward or at the very least can be contested off the server without waiting for a 15 minute dec timer to go through.

The alternative going forward is as following. Instead of declaring war and contesting a spot / server outright, giving both guilds an opportunity to reach out to their allies or friends or gvg guilds to come help and giving a feeling of authentic pvp in what was up until now a competitive community wide arms race - is being walked up on by someone who genuinely knows the karma system and how to abuse it in a dp set, attempt to feed you to mobs / slow spam you. And then swap to tuvala gear once the other, likely less experienced player, flags up and has their entire family go red. 

You can say "without consequence" but likely chances are, if ur guild was liked on the server chain then the bigger fish on it would be more than willing to help just because of the thirst for pvp content at the higher end of the game - and those guilds would then contest the server vs your opposition. It's a social game after all, despite how much a minority of people want to play it single player. 

tl;dr ur guild did some grief shit, got locked down for it, and had no one to help because again - you are likely griefers yourselves 

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 10:43 (UTC)
# 27

To Pearl Abyss

I understand your reasons for this kind of changes, but honestly I hope that two-sided wars never happen.

I'm ok with family karma, i don't think will affect the game of too many people.

I'm ok with marni realm recharge, tho i think the better aspect of BDO is the open world (i'm even against Magnus tbh) so why isolate even more player each-other? But, ok!

Black desert has an astonishing scenario and it's a waste use Magnus and lose the travelking experience. In this travel the risk to encounter enemies is part of our own personal adventure. It's pure adrenalina sometimes.

So why reduce BDO into a PvE game, when it's PvX side is it's streinght?! 

To encourage new players keep playing? They have season servers and Olvia, and nowadays, with the actual speed of gearing, they will be 630 after one season. Do they need more help? Really??

Some will answer me that there is Arsha if i want to PvP. But that's the point. I don't want to PvP at any cost. I want the freedom of having a world with no more boundaries and be surprised if someone attacks me suddently.

It is essencial (imho) that BDO remains a Sandbox Open world PvX game in which you can choose who you want to be and how to play.

Pls PA think about It!

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 13:54 (UTC)
# 28

Anyone who thinks this is a healthy or positive change for the game is still stuck in a seasonal server.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 16:17 (UTC)
# 29

Good job PA, idc about that shitty pvp in this game anyways, good on you for the marni <3

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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 17:42 (UTC)
# 30
On: Jul 27, 2023, 06:25 (UTC), Written by zBoo

100 pvpers crying about not being able to grief new players

vs

growing new player base

go play another game, simple choice to me

That's just not what's happening at all. People don't use one sided decs to grief new players. The situation has already been described very clearly in the OP, if you aren't reading then don't comment.

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