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Karma system, Maps and Escape function changes
Jul 27, 2023, 03:35 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 03:35 (UTC)
# 1

Family Name: Strudll

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestions/Comments: Karma system, Map & Escape function applying a certain period of time to use.
Karma system:
I'm only been in this game for a few years, and I can say that this gameplay of being a redplayer didn't attract me at all. When I heard about the new changes was left with a bitter taste for the new consequences for the karma system, to be equal for all characters.
As an example: There are moments when I have been grinding for several hours, on a contested spot, and suddenly I notice that someone has entered my perimeter and ignored me, regardless of whether adventurer is in a guild or not, I write in the chat to warn that "I'm here", and continues to ignore me... A solution for me was to change to a character that is dedicated in cases like this, to solve the problem from the spot cuz otherwise can't get rid of an indifferent person in any other way.
Exists many people who knowing the karma system and abuse it, allowing himself to be killed on purpose just so that I end up negative, and have the current sanctions applied to me, and I don't want just for an ignorant person to apply the penalty to all my characters.
(Changing the server in this case would lead to lost time looking for another spot, the duel with another person and in case I lose duels on the main servers, I have to wait another 10 minutes in the hope that I can find another server. Too much hassle for something that can be solved in 5 minutes.)

Map & Escape changes: I'm directly disturbed by applying a certain period of time to use, cuz I know maps and Escape are used frequently by all adventurers in middle fight, or grind zone, can't call it abuse.. Escape function has a cooldown of 30 minutes (if I'm not mistaken), and the map has 5 hours.
As an example: In Black Desert are many people who see the game differently, and some people think so it's funny when another adventurer grinds, to feed them at mobs... if we are unlucky enough to be taken by surprise and have the Emergency escape skill on cooldown, have nothing else to do, just to look at someone with a ghillie (Unknown adventurer) who leaves us so that the last hit to be from the mobs, and possible consequences of losing some crystals expensive, without being able to have any option to protect ourselves. In this case, that's why I was using Escape or Maps... to avoid an unpleasant event.

I don't understand why this change was needed, I beg you to change them as they were before.


Kind regards everyone.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 15:22 (UTC)
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Karma + Marni + Guild War : The pvp system in the game will be greatly affected in a negative way. Do you want fairness? When I kill monsters on the spot and the players come to grief me, I usually go for PK, kill him 3 times and get close to 0 karma. Is it my fault? I'm always looking for new spots because of people like that? The best option was duel for spot, a rule invented and respected by the players to keep order, don't accept = you get war and fight until you leave, simple and easy. I'm playing an MMORPG, I'm gearing up to be able to have an advantage over the others. Turn an open pvp world game into a princess game, we'll call it BDO Pu**y mode. Please don't do this.

Please do not encourage griefing!!!!!!!!

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 16:26 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jul 27, 2023, 15:22 (UTC), Written by AllenMinyo

Karma + Marni + Guild War : The pvp system in the game will be greatly affected in a negative way. Do you want fairness? When I kill monsters on the spot and the players come to grief me, I usually go for PK, kill him 3 times and get close to 0 karma. Is it my fault? I'm always looking for new spots because of people like that? The best option was duel for spot, a rule invented and respected by the players to keep order, don't accept = you get war and fight until you leave, simple and easy. I'm playing an MMORPG, I'm gearing up to be able to have an advantage over the others. Turn an open pvp world game into a princess game, we'll call it BDO Pu**y mode. Please don't do this.

Please do not encourage griefing!!!!!!!!

Aren't you the advisor with 700 gs of the guild NerfpUs who bully at centaurs spot low gs players ? You are just a scumbag and im happy that PA will remove Guild wars . You abused a spot wich was not created with the intention for high gs players to make money.But you know is more easy to fight low gs players than to go to a spot where you meet same high gs players .

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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 17:18 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jul 27, 2023, 16:26 (UTC), Written by Feeder

Aren't you the advisor with 700 gs of the guild NerfpUs who bully at centaurs spot low gs players ? You are just a scumbag and im happy that PA will remove Guild wars . You abused a spot wich was not created with the intention for high gs players to make money.But you know is more easy to fight low gs players than to go to a spot where you meet same high gs players .

Hello frogshop too. There are 750 gearscore players who grind StarEnd, don't you comment on them? 

I grind centaurs because I have a class that can produce 800-1 billion per hour there, my main class is not good in certain big spots, I don't like other classes even though I tried with system tag. I assure you that I always leave the spot to small people who behave exemplary and respect the duel for spot. I only kill people who offend, make grief, threaten. As proof, I have a folder with 3000 screenshot, if you want me to share them with you, contact me on discord. You talk nonsense and in ignorance of the cause. Give me spots where I make this money with my class without losing crystals every hour and I'll go.  They often find you guild mates with 700+ speed points instead of centaurs. (Zerker 700+). The game allows me to grind there, give me better and decent spots and I'll go, at orcs I do less. All spot grind is free for all ! you go where you like and it suits you.

Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 15:50 (UTC)
# 5
On: Jul 27, 2023, 17:13 (UTC), Written by AllenMinyo

Hello frogshop too. There are 750 gearscore players who grind StarEnd, don't you comment on them? 

I grind centaurs because I have a class that can produce 800-1 billion per hour there, my main class is not good in certain big spots, I don't like other classes even though I tried with system tag. I assure you that I always leave the spot to small people who behave exemplary and respect the duel for spot. I only kill people who offend, make grief, threaten. As proof, I have a folder with 3000 screenshot, if you want me to share them with you, contact me on discord. You talk nonsense and in ignorance of the cause. Give me spots where I make this money with my class without losing crystals every hour and I'll go.  They often find you guild mates with 700+ speed points instead of centaurs. (Zerker 700+). The game allows me to grind there, give me better and decent spots and I'll go, at orcs I do less. All spot grind is free for all ! you go where you like and it suits you.

So you are just a griefer.What dfs do you want when you overgear players where that spot was designed for low gear people to catch up the veterans ?You are the perfect example why PA are making these changes.

PS  : You are just a liar who prefer easy mode grinding at centaurs just admit it, griefing players at low gear spots .How can you say that archer can't grind.

Example Hexe Sanctuary 698 gfs 20.3k trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4-XTrmFi_w&ab_channel=Zackiskip

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Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 16:05 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jul 28, 2023, 15:42 (UTC), Written by Feeder

So you are just a griefer.

The problem is that some players think that 1 sided PVP is still PVP, which is not its just PK or griefing. Its easy to win over players who have no intention to fight,  problem is that those "pvp" players straigh up sux when its time to actual PVP, they useless,  can't listen to shotcaller and simple close the F gate. And now those players upset hard, because PA taking away their tool to improve ego, now if they want  PVP they'll have to deal with toxic shotcallers who call them  being useless.

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Last Edit : Jul 29, 2023, 03:55 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jul 28, 2023, 16:03 (UTC), Written by Potato

The problem is that some players think that 1 sided PVP is still PVP, which is not its just PK or griefing. Its easy to win over players who have no intention to fight,  problem is that those "pvp" players straigh up sux when its time to actual PVP, they useless,  can't listen to shotcaller and simple close the F gate. And now those players upset hard, because PA taking away their tool to improve ego, now if they want  PVP they'll have to deal with toxic shotcallers who call them  being useless.

Hello potato,
This matter is a little debatable, this is not about ego.. it all starts when you start playing a game, you keep playing it for years cuz you like something about BDO. I'm not a fan of PVE, and neither of lifeskill, nor of stories.. but I still do them for different reasons, either financially cuz otherwise you have no way to progress in the game (ignoring gambling alternatives).
I'm a very comfortable player when it comes to spending my time grinding, and I prefer to stay somewhere in an easier area and still make decent money, watching a movie/serial.. cuz the time passes differently and you don't feel the dislike of the work you do.. the only thing that attracted me to the game, and still makes me continue playing BDO is the open world pvp/nodewar/GvG, indeed, it can be frustrating when someone who has spent more time than you and has a super advanced gear progression and can kill you easily. but let's not forget that BDO is a marathon, not a speedrun.. if you want to grow overnight and kill them all, it's impossible, there will always be someone better than you.

Also, after reading several opinions from both camps.. unfortunately, new players didn't understand why this Duel For Spot rule was created by the community... it was created to avoid crowding spots, where everyone was fight everywhere and no one cared about anyone, they were all like robots.. I agree with new marni zones, but i don't agree to change something without asking the old players, cuz in the end they keep playing.. not the new ones who don't understand much and give up of somehow 40% the new adventurers, if new adventurers stick with the game more than 6 months is a big thing.. after all, the old players are faced with some changes that affect us directly, and we have to fight by finding solutions to be able to resolve through a consensus. And there is also the option of declaring war, coz someone refuses to adapt to the community, refusing to do dfs.. many times who is an old player and sees a new beginner, if he sees that is receptive and that has adapted, there are big chances that old player will let him continue to grind, cuz we have all been there and know how it is. As well as the variant with the declaration of war, I'm aware that people who play just to be a troller, or to cyberbully, will always find ways interrupt the gameplay of the other adventurer regardless of the penalties they get. 

I usually avoid posting my thoughts to the forum, as many players do. It's just that when something really bothers me, I can't help but assert myself, and I know that people can blame me super easily, it's fine, give your opinion, I'm open to any discussion, just please leave personal problems between you, as I read above..

Thank you for reading everything I wrote,
Kind regards everyone.

Last Edit : Jul 29, 2023, 04:00 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jul 29, 2023, 03:55 (UTC), Written by Strudll

Hello potato,
This matter is a little debatable, this is not about ego.. it all starts when you start playing a game, you keep playing it for years cuz you like something about BDO. I'm not a fan of PVE, and neither of lifeskill, nor of stories.. but I still do them for different reasons, either financially cuz otherwise you have no way to progress in the game (ignoring gambling alternatives).
I'm a very comfortable player when it comes to spending my time grinding, and I prefer to stay somewhere in an easier area and still make decent money, watching a movie/serial.. cuz the time passes differently and you don't feel the dislike of the work you do.. the only thing that attracted me to the game, and still makes me continue playing BDO is the open world pvp/nodewar/GvG, indeed, it can be frustrating when someone who has spent more time than you and has a super advanced gear progression and can kill you easily. but let's not forget that BDO is a marathon, not a speedrun.. if you want to grow overnight and kill them all, it's impossible, there will always be someone better than you.

Also, after reading several opinions from both camps.. unfortunately, new players didn't understand why this Duel For Spot rule was created by the community... it was created to avoid crowding spots, where everyone was fight everywhere and no one cared about anyone, they were all like robots.. I agree with new marni zones, but i don't agree to change something without asking the old players, cuz in the end they keep playing.. not the new ones who don't understand much and give up of somehow 40% the new adventurers, if new adventurers stick with the game more than 6 months is a big thing.. after all, the old players are faced with some changes that affect us directly, and we have to fight by finding solutions to be able to resolve through a consensus. And there is also the option of declaring war, coz someone refuses to adapt to the community, refusing to do dfs.. many times who is an old player and sees a new beginner, if he sees that is receptive and that has adapted, there are big chances that old player will let him continue to grind, cuz we have all been there and know how it is. As well as the variant with the declaration of war, I'm aware that people who play just to be a troller, or to cyberbully, will always find ways interrupt the gameplay of the other adventurer regardless of the penalties they get. 

I usually avoid posting my thoughts to the forum, as many players do. It's just that when something really bothers me, I can't help but assert myself, and I know that people can blame me super easily, it's fine, give your opinion, I'm open to any discussion, just please leave personal problems between you, as I read above..

Thank you for reading everything I wrote,
Kind regards everyone.

Lots of excuses, Just go arsha

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Last Edit : Jul 29, 2023, 04:18 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jul 29, 2023, 04:00 (UTC), Written by Fizzyceci

Lots of excuses, Just go arsha

Sorry, people going arsha for PVP, and sometimes to grind, I don't have enough gear to survive on arsha to keeping one decent rotation on spot just for me to grind.. so I adapt to the situation and grind on normal servers. :(
Most of the time joining Arsha just for PVP, not for grinding.

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