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PA is out of touch.
Jul 27, 2023, 05:33 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 22:54 (UTC)
# 11
On: Jul 27, 2023, 07:17 (UTC), Written by Potato

My gear doesn't downgrade or accessories don't blow up because i'm buying cron stones from vendor with silver i got from grinding & lifeskilling - by playing game.

I made 50% EXP on 65lvl in last ~2month by grinding marni hour only , game was on pretty much permanent at leat 500% EXP rate, i see you 63 for last 2 years, try to play game.

"play the game" :
Kuno:




life skiller :

afk fishing char :

alchemy :

also :

i think i played enough js.

Yeah i didnt rescreenshot the last because i already had shown someone them orders , i cba redoing all screenshots . Especially when PA consistently go out of their way to give their playerbase a headache.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 11:53 (UTC)
# 12
On: Jul 27, 2023, 06:04 (UTC), Written by Potato

BDO is a business, they need to make profit, they can't stay afloat by selling 1 outfit per customer, even if they customer gonna buy that outfit every month, not to mention someone dare to complain abot valuntary subs to drop price from ~50$ month to 10$, while noone even force you do buy them.

Servers are crowded nowadays, who gonna pay for them ? When they  give you free hammer you demand more when they increase benefits from  paying, you complain.

Go check pricings for traffic and servers, and then go check how much PA gonna make money out of selling data they collected from you ( zero, noone want your MAC/IP).

As for p2w, PA don't selling you gear, they selling you attemp to try your luck, which you can get by playing game, which honestly they just matching pearl items prices to catch inflation, inflation come from people like you demanding more silver from game activities.

I dont see anyone to comlain that average grind hour come from ~200mil/h to casual 1bil/h.

cool story

you need to shut up

shut up and stop bootlicking. PA is not your friend and you defending them is utterly sad.

This change is shit, they make enough profit from Value packs, old moon books, kama blessings, artisan memories, horse rerolls, pets and fairy rerolls.

"BDO is a business they need to make profit" - LOL. you are disgusting.

if this change goes through, EU is fucked. Nothing will be worth cronning anymore, except maybe pen debo clicks which are retarded expensive with their 13k cost as-is. This change will literally ruin EU, many, many people will quit and the game will die, this I guarantee you.

oh and not to mention that you NEED crons, for fallen god, godr-ayed, accessories..

This is 100% scumbag move from PA. They make it so armor doesn't downgrade 1 level, but goes back to base if you fail without crons, making you HAVE to use them. They make end-game accessories that are unmatched but make them giga-rare (looking at you, debo) so you HAVE to cron them, then they nerf crons into the FUCKING GROUND.

And you are defending them, pathetic.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 11:55 (UTC)
# 13
On: Jul 27, 2023, 11:47 (UTC), Written by Finalwingz

cool story

you need to shut up

shut up and stop bootlicking. PA is not your friend and you defending them is utterly sad.

This change is shit, they make enough profit from Value packs, old moon books, kama blessings, artisan memories, horse rerolls, pets and fairy rerolls.

"BDO is a business they need to make profit" - LOL. you are disgusting.

if this change goes through, EU is fucked. Nothing will be worth cronning anymore, except maybe pen debo clicks which are retarded expensive with their 13k cost as-is. This change will literally ruin EU, many, many people will quit and the game will die, this I guarantee you.

oh and not to mention that you NEED crons, for fallen god, godr-ayed, accessories..

This is 100% scumbag move from PA. They make it so armor doesn't downgrade 1 level, but goes back to base if you fail without crons, making you HAVE to use them. They make end-game accessories that are unmatched but make them giga-rare (looking at you, debo) so you HAVE to cron them, then they nerf crons into the FUCKING GROUND.

And you are defending them, pathetic.

NA has the same issue , idk what PAs issue is with their playerbase.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 12:29 (UTC)
# 14
On: Jul 27, 2023, 11:47 (UTC), Written by Finalwingz

cool story

you need to shut up

shut up and stop bootlicking. PA is not your friend and you defending them is utterly sad.

This change is shit, they make enough profit from Value packs, old moon books, kama blessings, artisan memories, horse rerolls, pets and fairy rerolls.

"BDO is a business they need to make profit" - LOL. you are disgusting.

if this change goes through, EU is fucked. Nothing will be worth cronning anymore, except maybe pen debo clicks which are retarded expensive with their 13k cost as-is. This change will literally ruin EU, many, many people will quit and the game will die, this I guarantee you.

oh and not to mention that you NEED crons, for fallen god, godr-ayed, accessories..

This is 100% scumbag move from PA. They make it so armor doesn't downgrade 1 level, but goes back to base if you fail without crons, making you HAVE to use them. They make end-game accessories that are unmatched but make them giga-rare (looking at you, debo) so you HAVE to cron them, then they nerf crons into the FUCKING GROUND.

And you are defending them, pathetic.

+1 bro i agree 100% u just said

PA is making 6-10 times more money then they need to maintaing their company and all this extra money is not going to people who make BDO its going to investors - that was proven by Oz_Eve on youtube by official PA financial reports, anyone can check this by its own its public .pdf

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 13:36 (UTC)
# 15
On: Jul 27, 2023, 07:37 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

why are they rising npc crons AGAIN, they are expensive as it is -.-  this is pure scum move. reminder that they originally cost 50% of the current price.

motherfckers basing all their new upgrades on cron stones (slumbering armors, deboreka and highend jewlery upgrades) and charging each costume in shop as a brand new game.

this is retarded.

actually retarded... you can buy frikkin cyberpunk game for the price of nipple covers in this game.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 15:01 (UTC)
# 16
Écrit le : 27 juil. 2023, 11:57 (UTC), par : Oberion

+1 bro i agree 100% u just said

PA is making 6-10 times more money then they need to maintaing their company and all this extra money is not going to people who make BDO its going to investors - that was proven by Oz_Eve on youtube by official PA financial reports, anyone can check this by its own its public .pdf

It's also supposed to be used for the development of their future games, that not many people seem care about anymore.

Crimson Desert that will seemingly be a aliexpress version of a mix between Witcher 3 and Dragon's Dogma, without the qualities of aforementionned games, running on what will be an unimpressive engine compared to competition at release. Still curious about how much scumbaggery will be infused in the monetisation process, because il will surely not only rely on boxes sales.  

DokeV that doesn't seem to generate much interest outside of Korea.

Plan 8 that has seemingly been abandoned (a teaser 3 years and a half ago .... And not a single news since then)

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 15:52 (UTC)
# 17
On: Jul 27, 2023, 14:57 (UTC), Written by CaptainCourage

It's also supposed to be used for the development of their future games, that not many people seem care about anymore.

Crimson Desert that will seemingly be a aliexpress version of a mix between Witcher 3 and Dragon's Dogma, without the qualities of aforementionned games, running on what will be an unimpressive engine compared to competition at release. Still curious about how much scumbaggery will be infused in the monetisation process, because il will surely not only rely on boxes sales.  

DokeV that doesn't seem to generate much interest outside of Korea.

Plan 8 that has seemingly been abandoned (a teaser 3 years and a half ago .... And not a single news since then)

Who cares about this garbage games?

Bro if one of this games succed BDO is rip

And this is their state of mind MILK one game and make 3 another hahaha

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 16:08 (UTC)
# 18

maybe PA will pull a Western Gaming Corp Strat:

1: announce a bunch of horrible things

2: reverse the worst horrible thing

3: get good PR for removing the worst horrible thing

4: keep silent about the other horrible things

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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 16:51 (UTC)
# 19
On: Jul 27, 2023, 05:33 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

So yous increase the p2w with increasing the amount of money from costumes , increase crons extraction an increasing vendor price well also making quite alot of the community irrated by implementing 12 hour marnis realm + removing war declaration and making karma family wide.

Did yous do this so you got less back lash on crons an moved the back lash to being about the gvg system an karma system ?

Yous did 3 things wrong you added 12 hour marnis realm which wouldve made the GVG and karma system not a issue for lifeskillers(which is acceptable), but you intentionally hid this behind increasing the p2w.

Are yous purposely killing the game for Crimson Desert or are yous planning to make a new mmo to slap your playerbase around ?

Every one of these changes are meant as a blantant cash grab.
I understand the need to make money, so I don't care as much about the cash grab in costumes(which I guarantee will go up in cost in the cash shop soon).
The PVP changes are obviously tailored to keep/get the WoW and FF transplants here and potentially spending in the cash shop.
Expect this game to turn into another Carebear island for casuals with isolated pvp in defined spaces and times.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 17:22 (UTC)
# 20

I'm really hoping that this is a KR only change because if those changes come to NA/EU, a good part of the actually active playerbase might just straight up quit and move to other MMOs, at least I know I will if they don't also adjust how many crons you need for upgrades that need them.

Enhancing end-game gear is already tedious as is, a single FG TRI attempt costs you 4.2b in vendor crons right now, and you're expecting me to just be fine with it suddenly going up to 6.3b, when a 200fs only gives a ~10% chance of succeeding in the first place? Debos are an even worse offender when it comes to cron cost.
I am beyond baffled that they seemed to genuinely put effort into the game and show that off at Heidel Ball and now they're just throwing out very controversial updates (or propositions of them) the moment they get a huge influx of new players. And don't tell me this is to finance their other projects because you cannot tell me that they actually believe any of their current WIP games will be the next big thing that players are gonna flock to.

I was positively surprised to see the large amount of QOL improvements that came our way since they took BDO back from Kakao, also fairly happy with the recent content that has been added, and now they take all this good reputation to introduce changes that might just make players, new and old, quit?

Do yourself a big favour, PA, and stop looking at big amounts of money over a short time frame and start seeing BDO as the long term investment it should probably be. The game is monetized enough as is, we don't need, and most importantly, we do not want more of this shit.

I like playing BDO, but not enough to keep playing if this is the direction the folk at PA are taking.

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