You realize pvp players quitting is bad right?

like ..will this change still be good in your opinion of it leads to the servers being shut down in 18 months?

Players leaving the game is bad for the game. full stop.

Arsha is not ful. It was told many trimes. But has enough people to not have proper grind-less xp and less income than normal servers. As a PvPvE Arsha fails a bit PvE part, as PvPvE normal servers dont have solution for some griefing.

But Im wasting my time, it was told to you many times and you cant understant the idea. Go to arsha and I mind my own bussines...yea I know...

That's one of the reasons Tera died actually. Pvp is really the only thing that game had going for it. Pvp was one of the best things in this game as it was the closest one to Tera. It would be nice if they'd make pvp worth doing though, as it is right now is boring. There's no incentive. 

And karma bombers aren't? Karma bombers being people who come to a grindspot you are currently at and outgrind you to where you have no choice but to leave or go red.  I've had that happen before, I dealt with it and moved on. I either switched channel or left to do something else. 

J letter shows he doesnt listen to our concern ! and goes where the money is instead of where the quality of the game should be for a longevity !
most of us veteran count this game as our home and main ! nothing can beat the grinding/graphics and pvp mechanics in this game so far ! but sadly, we see these things changing step by step by this developer !
killing the PVP scene and replacing with fixed geared aos/rbf/arena style is not a replacement to a true world pvp at all ! we are happy we have variety of ways to express the enjoyment of the pvp now ! but we need more pvp content that has meaningful reward/progress/fun. instead of feeding us more pve conetent.
but now we reached to lvl to not fixing what has been broken in pvp side ! making it more difficult for us pvpers to deal with bad players who love to grief and being toxic.

Game should not be the one that deal with toxic players ! they provide tools and incentive !
you punish us for stopping bad behavior in world pvp and rewarding the griefer instead ! we lose time / krama/ crystals / exp all for the sake of not to gain karma from killing the same guy over and over to stop his grief !
many solution can be inspired from other mmo or from us the players ! like i read recently "extending the death of griefer to more time every time he dies ! 1 mintue /5 mintues /30 mintues / 1 hour" this method give the player freedom to grind after dealing with griefer !
i can come up with many good solution than killing the world pvp like that !
but lets see what you are implying with the new restriction to world pvp.

1 - both guild need accept war for GvG ! = means if toxic guild wanted to grief other guilds ! now they can ! and make them rage quit the grinding spot ! hunt their enemies or have fun near world bosses like garmoth or kzarka is dead  ! give incentive for toxic guilds to rise more! ( i know i will join one as those toxic players will no life someone to let him quit this spot)

2- Karma family = you cant cut loose and kill for fun with ur red name tagged character ! also, this method deal with toxic griefer ! you hunt em over and over without worrying about your karma ! sadly ,now it's dead.

3- marni servers should not exist from the first place ! instead implement system like dehkia lantern so we can grind in 1-2 packs instead of the whole zone ! and make a group content event happen in same gring zone  like boss apear and all people in the grind zone have to team up to kill the boss !make the grinding more fun !

Listen to your players ! we love this game more than you ! i bet many players here can give you million idea better than mine to improve the pvp scene and class-imbalances that you are causing on every new class releases!  ignoreing the voices that supporting this game is always a recipe of failure to a great mmo !
hope this reach you !

I have a very simple and logical solution for you

You should be able to fight only the people that want to fight you

I know for a fact that you would not speak all these words if you ware a new player and you wouldn`t have all that fancy gear you grinded in frustration because of all people that DFS`ed and/or killed you for your spot along the years

Those people that you might call griefers 99% of them came to your spot not because of having the bad intention to take ur mobs, they did that because they have no alternative , there was no marni realm, all the channels ware crowded and/or they had cooldown on changing channel .

Who would care to come on your stupid spot if they would have so many other places to go ? They almost never ever do it on purpose .

PA has finally realized that like in reality people must be free to do what they choose to do.

Players must be free to do PVE or mindless grind like you call it

Free to do lifeskills if they want

No1 should be forced to do PVP because another player desires as such

PA cares more about new and returning players that ware forced to leave because of the harsh playng conditions of the game to come and enjoy the game and swipe left and right no matter what they choose to do in the game or when they want to do it(PVP OR PVE) then veteran players who already bought inventory/weight/pets/costumes and so on and so forth. 

THe veterans now will have to work harder if they want to keep their `status` but the game is easier for them aswell because there are marni realms for everyone not just new players.

Who cares veterans cannot go rampant on killing low geared and low skilled players in BDO anymore really?

If they want to do PVP they now have plenty activities to do so ,

i will even give them a hint:

They can just go fight among themselves untill the new and old players get geared and skilled using the new tools the game provided for them.

Well currently every single time i've asked anyone about the situation they've described its been no followthrough at all.

It's almost like this shit never happened, and people are just inventing things that they think could happen to make their point sound better.