J letter shows he doesnt listen to our concern ! and goes where the money is instead of where the quality of the game should be for a longevity !
most of us veteran count this game as our home and main ! nothing can beat the grinding/graphics and pvp mechanics in this game so far ! but sadly, we see these things changing step by step by this developer !
killing the PVP scene and replacing with fixed geared aos/rbf/arena style is not a replacement to a true world pvp at all ! we are happy we have variety of ways to express the enjoyment of the pvp now ! but we need more pvp content that has meaningful reward/progress/fun. instead of feeding us more pve conetent.
but now we reached to lvl to not fixing what has been broken in pvp side ! making it more difficult for us pvpers to deal with bad players who love to grief and being toxic.

Game should not be the one that deal with toxic players ! they provide tools and incentive !
you punish us for stopping bad behavior in world pvp and rewarding the griefer instead ! we lose time / krama/ crystals / exp all for the sake of not to gain karma from killing the same guy over and over to stop his grief !
many solution can be inspired from other mmo or from us the players ! like i read recently "extending the death of griefer to more time every time he dies ! 1 mintue /5 mintues /30 mintues / 1 hour" this method give the player freedom to grind after dealing with griefer !
i can come up with many good solution than killing the world pvp like that !
but lets see what you are implying with the new restriction to world pvp.

1 - both guild need accept war for GvG ! = means if toxic guild wanted to grief other guilds ! now they can ! and make them rage quit the grinding spot ! hunt their enemies or have fun near world bosses like garmoth or kzarka is dead  ! give incentive for toxic guilds to rise more! ( i know i will join one as those toxic players will no life someone to let him quit this spot)

2- Karma family = you cant cut loose and kill for fun with ur red name tagged character ! also, this method deal with toxic griefer ! you hunt em over and over without worrying about your karma ! sadly ,now it's dead.

3- marni servers should not exist from the first place ! instead implement system like dehkia lantern so we can grind in 1-2 packs instead of the whole zone ! and make a group content event happen in same gring zone  like boss apear and all people in the grind zone have to team up to kill the boss !make the grinding more fun !

Listen to your players ! we love this game more than you ! i bet many players here can give you million idea better than mine to improve the pvp scene and class-imbalances that you are causing on every new class releases!  ignoreing the voices that supporting this game is always a recipe of failure to a great mmo !
hope this reach you !

PVP should just be removed entirely from this game.  You ARE the toxic griefer.   Remove this farce of a system that interferes with every other aspect of the game.

I mean this comment isn't wrong, most toxic part of BDO community are pvp players and pvp guilds, I'm not sure how the game could be changed but the main post is looking like it only sees the pvp side of the story meanwhile J is also right, there is a lot of bullying and toxic behavior from pvp players towards people that just want to play or farm monster. I also think that making the game recognize you as griefer could be difficult to add penalties for it. I don't know how they could actually change it for the best but I know I don't care about pvp in this game anyway so even if it was entirely deleted I wouldn't mind.

If you want to remove toxic players, you also have to remove ksers. No reason to blame one excessive behavior and keep another one.

Moreover, pvp is part of the game, like killing monster is. You don't get to choose which rules of the game you want to apply.

Yeah true I'm not saying that one toxic behavior is better than another imo they both should be removed entirely. Yes I don't get to choose but I can support Dev choices if I like them and they can make pvp players quit.

old players who have tent maids pets etc from pearl shop must quit the game

new players have a lot things to buy

why u dont understund it?

You realize pvp players quitting is bad right?

like ..will this change still be good in your opinion of it leads to the servers being shut down in 18 months?

Players leaving the game is bad for the game. full stop.

Everything can count as toxic for sensitive players ! someone can come to your ground zone and grind with you and count that as toxic ! us veteran pvpers we call it fun ! cuz someone is about to be fed to mobs or gonna be epic battle

Griefer usually super easy to beat since they lose access to their crystals unless hes super skilled player and want to risk losing billions !
we find satisfaction and laughter from someone losing his crystals and 60 elions in one pvp session ! to most of us that worth the time wasted to teach him a lesson !
But to treat this game as an afk lifeskilling simulation or removing pvp are bad ways to experience bdo! most of us will quit and game will lose the appeal to most casuals players !
lifeskilling it's the most lazy and less profitable method to gear up and buy whatever you like in the game and takes forever to reach your silver goal to buy the best gear ! should be done as a side thing !
pvp is the highest motivation for players to gear up and reach pinnacle of pvp !also for pve , as you want to try grinding the hardest mobs ! but lets be real ! endgame of bdo is pvp ! once u reach max pen gears u only wanna do pvp.
and we hope they provide more pvp content for us !

Problem with these changes is that they will help grefiers and toxic players. I agree only with Karma changes thing that you could become red and swap char and again be "blue" was weird. Marni realm mehh ...PA should rework spots should be open world no for private realms wtf is this in MMO game. 

Good job PA, idc about that shitty pvp in this game anyways, good on you for the marni <3