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Rework Open World PVP - PVP Faction
Jul 27, 2023, 11:09 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Jul 29, 2023, 19:47 (UTC)
# 1

Family Name: Penke

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestions/Comments: 

I think it is time to revive Open World PVP. Let's allow people who want to kill each other to do it without penalties.
Here is what I thought of:

Add a singular PVP Faction (Main point, please like the post if you like the idea. Everything else is debatable)
- Place a NPC in each major City
- Players can join/leave this PVP Faction at will by interacting with the NPC
- Members of this faction can kill each other without penalties (no Karma loss, Crystals, etc.)
- Member status should be visible by some kind of icon on the nameplate
- Members get for example a passive drop rate buff, similarly too Arsha (risks should be rewarded)

General PVP changes:
- changes on the Karma system are not needed, but appreciated
- disable death penalty if killed by monster while cc by PVP interaction (stop feeding people)

- decrease karma cost of killing if killing someone consecutively 

- add a delay to increasing karma cost when changing gear of 1h (this should stop karma bombing)

Respawn Changes:
- this applies to PVP faction
- (optional: applies to all players)
- disable Resurrection with Elion's Tear/Blessing if killed by a PVP interaction (this should prevent endlessly harassing someone)
- each time you respawn after being killed by a PVP interaction, the distance to the respawn point increases (this should prevent endlessly harassing someone)
- Applying this to normal players could alleviate the griefer problem, whoever there is potential for abuse

How does it work?
1. You go to the faction NPC of a major city
2. You join the PVP faction
3. You see another player, you flag up (alt + c)
   A: He is a member of the PVP faction
       - You can kill him without any penalties
   B: He is a regular player
       - You can kill him but you will loose karma

4. If you don't want to be a member anymore, go back to a faction NPC and leave

Optional:

- A faction leaderboard

- Weekly Quests for killing faction members

- Open World PVP Events

This should be relatively easy to add to the game and would make PVP enjoyers a lot happier without interfering with the PVEers.

Don't forget to upvote and comment so more people and hopefully J can see this.

Edit: Rephrased everything to be more clear

Edit:

For those who don't know yet what they said in the GM letter:
- Both Guilds must agree for a war

- Karma becomes family wide

- Marni Realm every other hour → further decreasing player interaction

- 5 Minutes Server swap cooldown (good)

- Permanent Potion event (KR)

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 12:02 (UTC)
# 2

Agree with everything here except for the extra drop rate.  I never understood why you have to enter the toxic community (arsha) to get an extra drop rate buff.   People who like to pvp are free to pvp, but those who don't like to shouldn't be penalized for it (missing drop buff).

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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 12:04 (UTC)
# 3
On: Jul 27, 2023, 12:02 (UTC), Written by Picklenose

Agree with everything here except for the extra drop rate.  I never understood why you have to enter the toxic community (arsha) to get an extra drop rate buff.   People who like to pvp are free to pvp, but those who don't like to shouldn't be penalized for it (missing drop buff).

Yous get a marni realm yous have full protection, pa should just split the client one with traditional rules an one full pve rules. Problem solved.

Means both cant intereact outside of the market.

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 12:16 (UTC)
# 4
On: Jul 27, 2023, 12:02 (UTC), Written by Picklenose

Agree with everything here except for the extra drop rate.  I never understood why you have to enter the toxic community (arsha) to get an extra drop rate buff.   People who like to pvp are free to pvp, but those who don't like to shouldn't be penalized for it (missing drop buff).

Its still a game and I believe if you take risks you should be rewarded. Im not talking about massive buffs but some incentive

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 13:13 (UTC)
# 5

sounds nice but waht to do about griefers? youre flagged they not, just come and steal your spot? or flagged can wop sum bum?

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 13:28 (UTC)
# 6
On: Jul 27, 2023, 13:13 (UTC), Written by PhuckYeah

sounds nice but waht to do about griefers? youre flagged they not, just come and steal your spot? or flagged can wop sum bum?

Thats a good point. I think a possible solution would be to apply this to normal players as well:

- Increase respawn time or distance when killed by PvP 

- Disable Elion Tear/Blessing resurrection when killed by PvP if flagged

While keeping the karma system and penalties. This would make it so griefers cant just come back every time they die. But its a difficult problem and this solution is not flawless

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Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 15:04 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jul 27, 2023, 11:09 (UTC), Written by Penke

- Let people flag up and unflag only in cities

I don't like how this sounds. If someone comes to a person's area in Underground Gyfin to grief and starts hitting the mobs out of order, they need to go all the way to Grana just to turn their flag on? Then if they want to turn their flag off, they need to go back to the city again?

On: Jul 27, 2023, 11:09 (UTC), Written by Penke

- People who flag up can be killed without penalty by other flagged up people, there could even be a reward for killing someone

Does this mean only flagged people can kill flagged people? or that unflagged people killing a flagged person will get penalized for it?

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Aybi
Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 15:10 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jul 27, 2023, 15:04 (UTC), Written by Cursed

I don't like how this sounds. If someone comes to a person's area in Underground Gyfin to grief and starts hitting the mobs out of order, they need to go all the way to Grana just to turn their flag on? Then if they want to turn their flag off, they need to go back to the city again?

You would still be able to kill not flagged players but with penalties enabled.

On: Jul 27, 2023, 15:04 (UTC), Written by Cursed

Does this mean only flagged people can kill flagged people? or that unflagged people killing a flagged person will get penalized for it?

Flagged players can kill each other without penalty. For everything else penalties apply. 

Last Edit : Jul 27, 2023, 15:30 (UTC)
# 10

Thx PA for the news. Realy entjoy all of it =).

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