Because you don't see ks or bodythrowing as an intrusion, that's your bias. We don't have this bias. 

I don't even know what body throwing is.  I never said it was is an intrusion.  I said it is not harassment.  The amount of value I lose from someone wandering into my rotation is a mere fraction of what I lose when someone kills me.  The two are not even close.  Further, I can group with someone if they are in my area.  I can't negotiate with someone who demands I leave an area where I am there first.  Yet, you only refer to the former as griefing.

Can't you read, for God's sake?

I'm not saying that this should not be removed, I even agree with its removal. 

Yet, it should be replaced by another tool because, on the end, there's still one less tool to deal with some types of excessive behavior.

Restricting one type of abuse while encouraging another one is nothing but a band-aid. They should deal with all of them at the same time.

Ah, Marni realm does not solve anything. It simply avoids the problem, and any player may meet the problems when they can't access Marni realm. That's also a band-aid. Think wider. 

Alright we agree one sided decs should be removed. They should deal with all the problems at once is a great wish to have but dealing with one problem at a time is a much more reasonable solution.   Marnis realm is an effective solution to prevent the types of issues one sided decs have. Is it a perfect solution? No. Should we wait until we have a perfect solution to start making improvements? Also no. 

No 1 sided decs need to stay or they need to add an unlimited number of mutual wars with no limit on a duration so guilds can stay at war with each other forever.  

I know I have explained this exact thing to him, I know you have, I would be willing to bet that dozens of people have explained this exact thing.  This is either senility or flat out lying at this point.

Do you realize how asanine your take is? You literally just said deal with them grinding over you or leave. So bend the knee to someone taking your spot? I should have no choice but to leave or flag up and drop MY karma defending the spot I WAS GRINDING instead of leaving the perfectly fine system in place that allows me to not drop MY karma defending myself?

You just proved my point that it's stupid to remove it. Either way you tuvala tonys are getting ran out of your spot. Hello?

All the carebears are looking at it from the "i got dec'd on" standpoint and completely ignoring the situations where IT LITERALLY BENEFITS YOU TO DEC SOMEONE ELSE. It is a PvP game.

Why is it that I've never had a problem with people disrupting my rotatations, yet I've had MANY instances where I am minding my own business and someone repeatedly kills me to force me to leave?

He stalks me in game too.  Permadecced my guild as a 740 GS sorc just to grief me.

LMAO this thread is still going on.

Alright we agree one sided decs should be removed. They should deal with all the problems at once is a great wish to have but dealing with one problem at a time is a much more reasonable solution.   Marnis realm is an effective solution to prevent the types of issues one sided decs have. Is it a perfect solution? No. Should we wait until we have a perfect solution to start making improvements? Also no. 

The problem with Marni is not that is not perfect solution. The problem is that is terrible solution. Making MMO a single paly is nothing but teribble sotuion. As for the decs... Its clear that clear one griefing and boost another griefing. But does it realy matter when every one will be on Marni ? Most of the wars are because of karmabombers. Now looks like big part of BDO gameplay will be gone.

If it come to EU/NA