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Jul 28, 2023, 13:47 (UTC)
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# 1

Pearl Abyss.

The next changes bring up many worries about toxicity in the game.

The main one is: "How will I defend myself against greifers?"

Was decs agreed both sides, family wide karma, this can't help players to grind normally when intruders come and ruin their game by griefing.

You made Marni servers and the game felt more empty. (is it still a MMORPG?)

Now you propose to make it even longer everyday. It will feel even more empty. (do you want to make BDO a soloRPG?)

So, for you, the solution to grind is to go to Marni, instead of staying in normal places. Your solution is to make more solo servers.

And, of course, for the 2-3 or 5 group zones, we can still politely f... ourselves.

PA, I don't disagree with all your next changes, but you didn't think of the consequences, because I don't believe you play your game. So, no offense, but you don't understand it.

We players, know how it will be, since we know already how players are. Griefers will remain griefers:

1. Player A grinds. Player B comes and steal the mobs, doesn't care about player A being there and asking player B to leave, switch or dfs.

Yeah, okay, the spot is to everybody... But still, the griefer knows he ruins the grind of someone.

You wanna defend your spot in this situation, but you can't anymore since ALL your characters will be negative then.

Sure, I assume having negative karma when I kill someone. But considering the circumstances, I didn't provoke the first move and HE shouldn't be punished whilst I defend my grind?

2. Player A grinds. Player B comes with way better gear and wanna force dfs since player A refuses it. Player B kills player A.

In this situation, it's normal that player B loses karma, he's the one coming onto player A and not the other way around.

BUT then player B starts throwing player A in mobs. Player A dies in mobs and loses crystals. He was just grinding... What solution do you propose to that issue? You answer to some problems with no solutions but just different ways of playing and harder ways to grind.

I don't use Marni, I didn't join a MMORPG to play solo.

And anyway, now, I don't need to join it to see nobody in the game... They are all afk in towns or in Marnis' instances. Thanx PA, by the way, to have detroyed the Massive Multiplayers Online experience!

Now, it is time you listen to the majority maybe.

My point of view about dfs and pvp is not the same as everybody, each player has his own point of view.

But when you see many feedbacks on a same thread, or even just one feedback with many upvotes or being heavily discussed within players, most of them complaining, you should listen.

You had this criteria when you brought up the feedback board, about having 200 upvotes for a feedback to be considered by the devs, discussed, applied or denied.

Now you took away that criteria. (is that because it bothers you that the Sol issue about Shaï is so popular and you simply don't want it? Despite the 221 upvotes?)

So today, we don't feel listened to and it's legit, you ignore your actual players, the ones who spent so many time and money in the game already.

Pearl Abyss, stop answering just aside of the issues, answer ON the issues please. Aim right and stop putting band-aids.

Regards.

Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 15:35 (UTC)
# 2

Personally i am not someone that rejects PvP in fact PvP is one of my interests even if it could be better than what it is but then again i shouldn't base my view about it on AoS. With all the pros/ cons etc. there is PvP that is great in this game no doubt.

However i like to do all content when i choose so. Reasons: Work/ Real Life/ other hobbies so i don't spend most of my day gaming anymore.

So the ''Feature'' of being able to choose a Private Instance to get the silver and drops i require is a great Quality of Life improvement.

That's how i see it and this ''Practicality'' eliminates all other concerns in my head. Why?

Because Grinding is Solo anyway and we only do it for the Drops/ Silver to progress further so the most important technical part of grinding is ''Efficiency'' and since grind is Solo anyway and the only ''Multiplayer Activity'' we have with each other is PvP/ Bosses, Private Spot Instances don't interfer with any Multiplayer Aspect.

Exceptions are those who like ''Encounters'' such as ''Duel for Spot'' or even the ''Immersion of running up to another guy'' but don't like the Karma System which interfers with their preferences.

But ''Arsha exists'' so even these players have an entire Server which pretty much lives up to their expectations.

So a question remains. Why do they dislike Arsha? Why don't they enter the Server? Too contested? Lets say some places might be frequently they could always ask for Extra Servers like Arsha. Maybe turn the 6th Channels into free open world pvp. They never do though.

My conclusion is that the only PvP they enjoy is laying traps outside Heidel on AFK Horsetrainers and search for Grinders to ruin their fun because thats fun for them. So my cold logic conclusion is:

Marni is Great, Marni is the Best!

Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 16:12 (UTC)
# 3

Its funny how ppl upset that PA  remove ability to grief players who don't want to PVP and cannot see that PA at same time adding "permanent marni" where those players will stay.

On: Jul 28, 2023, 15:35 (UTC), Written by LordDagon

My conclusion is that the only PvP they enjoy is laying traps outside Heidel on AFK Horsetrainers and search for Grinders to ruin their fun because thats fun for them. So my cold logic conclusion is:

Because it is, even if PA would only make marni change they would be complaing as they could not find anyone to grief.

Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 16:19 (UTC)
# 4

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# 6
On: Jul 28, 2023, 13:47 (UTC), Written by PriseElectrique

Pearl Abyss.

The next changes bring up many worries about toxicity in the game.

The main one is: "How will I defend myself against greifers?"

Was decs agreed both sides, family wide karma, this can't help players to grind normally when intruders come and ruin their game by griefing.

You made Marni servers and the game felt more empty. (is it still a MMORPG?)

Now you propose to make it even longer everyday. It will feel even more empty. (do you want to make BDO a soloRPG?)

So, for you, the solution to grind is to go to Marni, instead of staying in normal places. Your solution is to make more solo servers.

And, of course, for the 2-3 or 5 group zones, we can still politely f... ourselves.

PA, I don't disagree with all your next changes, but you didn't think of the consequences, because I don't believe you play your game. So, no offense, but you don't understand it.

We players, know how it will be, since we know already how players are. Griefers will remain griefers:

1. Player A grinds. Player B comes and steal the mobs, doesn't care about player A being there and asking player B to leave, switch or dfs.

Yeah, okay, the spot is to everybody... But still, the griefer knows he ruins the grind of someone.

You wanna defend your spot in this situation, but you can't anymore since ALL your characters will be negative then.

Sure, I assume having negative karma when I kill someone. But considering the circumstances, I didn't provoke the first move and HE shouldn't be punished whilst I defend my grind?

2. Player A grinds. Player B comes with way better gear and wanna force dfs since player A refuses it. Player B kills player A.

In this situation, it's normal that player B loses karma, he's the one coming onto player A and not the other way around.

BUT then player B starts throwing player A in mobs. Player A dies in mobs and loses crystals. He was just grinding... What solution do you propose to that issue? You answer to some problems with no solutions but just different ways of playing and harder ways to grind.

I don't use Marni, I didn't join a MMORPG to play solo.

And anyway, now, I don't need to join it to see nobody in the game... They are all afk in towns or in Marnis' instances. Thanx PA, by the way, to have detroyed the Massive Multiplayers Online experience!

Now, it is time you listen to the majority maybe.

My point of view about dfs and pvp is not the same as everybody, each player has his own point of view.

But when you see many feedbacks on a same thread, or even just one feedback with many upvotes or being heavily discussed within players, most of them complaining, you should listen.

You had this criteria when you brought up the feedback board, about having 200 upvotes for a feedback to be considered by the devs, discussed, applied or denied.

Now you took away that criteria. (is that because it bothers you that the Sol issue about Shaï is so popular and you simply don't want it? Despite the 221 upvotes?)

So today, we don't feel listened to and it's legit, you ignore your actual players, the ones who spent so many time and money in the game already.

Pearl Abyss, stop answering just aside of the issues, answer ON the issues please. Aim right and stop putting band-aids.

Regards.

This is hilarious.

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Odyssae
Last Edit : Jul 29, 2023, 12:25 (UTC)
# 7

I wonder why all those ppl asking for Marnis realm 24/7, asking for full regulation, asking not to be bothered by any other humans taking their mobs, asking for no competition ARE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLAYING AN MMORPG??

Guys, there are so many solo RPGs you can try. Massively Multiplayer is the name of the game to in a way being forced to interact with others and befriend but also compete with them. That´s what it´s all about, that´s the great and awesome difference! Do not kill the core of this game!

Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 17:21 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jul 28, 2023, 17:08 (UTC), Written by pal256

I wonder why all those ppl asking for Marnis realm 24/7, asling for full regulation, asking not to be bothered by any other humans taking their mobs, asking for no competition ARE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLAYING AN MMORPG??

Guys, there are so many solo RPGs you can try. Massively Multiplayer is the name of the game to in a way being forced to interact with others and befriend but also compete with them. That´s what it´s all about, that´s the great and awesome difference! Do not kill the core of this game!

I wonder why all those ppl asking for PVP never joins RBF (its only 60ppl lol), don't do nodewars, don't go arsha - answer is easy, they not looking for PVP vs player who are ready for PVP, they are looking for "PVP" vs a players they  have huge advantage. Imagine calling yourself an PVP players where all your PVP is bullying weak.

Last Edit : Jul 28, 2023, 17:52 (UTC)
# 9
On: Jul 28, 2023, 17:20 (UTC), Written by Potato

I wonder why all those ppl asking for PVP never joins RBF (its only 60ppl lol), don't do nodewars, don't go arsha - answer is easy, they not looking for PVP vs player who are ready for PVP, they are looking for "PVP" vs a players they  have huge advantage. Imagine calling yourself an PVP players where all your PVP is bullying weak.

It is a sickness, and we do not want it! Remember went guilds like Snake or such jump into your grind spot and demand you DFS. And when you decline just PK you 2 or 4 times then War Dec your whole guild. Bloodly Monestary, like WTF is a Snake player doing there other than looking for easy prey. And when your guild is undec'able, they head to the forums and whine about Karma system is not fair. Honestly, after that incident, I've lost nearly all respect for those types of bullies. Luckily I was with a guild that just didn't give a F so we Dec back, I get back up and we go hunt the Snake guy down in the other spot in Bloodly. And farmed him for about 30 minutes until they drop their whole guild on us. 

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